Did God FORCE Jesus to be born?

[JohnD]

..or did Jesus choose to live and die on earth.

 

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

 

Hebrews 10:5-7 (NASB95)

5 Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, “Sacrifice and offering You have not desired, But a body You have prepared for Me;

6 In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have taken no pleasure.

7 “Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come (In the scroll of the book it is written of Me) To do Your will, O God.’ ”

 

[JohnD]

Remember, Jesus (preincarnate) is the sole Creator of all things in the beginning.

 

Isaiah 44:24 (NASB95)
24 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, “I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone,

 

John 1:1-3 / Colossians 1:13-16 / Hebrews 1:1-2.

 

He is therefore the one to take responsibility for the fall of the creation (though it was not his fault).

[Willa]

No God did not force Jesus to be born as we can see stated in the scripture found in.....

Philippians 2:6-8 - Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Scripture states that Jesus was in the form of God (a Spirit as God is a Spirit) but Jesus gave up being in the form of God and became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus chose willingly to take on the form of man leaving all the splendor and riches of heaven. Jesus took on a human form the likeness of men and was a servant to God's will and purpose. Jesus became a man having and living in a flesh and blood physical body laying his Godhead aside). Jesus willingly made that choice and took it upon his own self to be obedient and submissive to the Father's will. Jesus of his own choice and will gave himself (his body as the sacrifice for the sins of man). Jesus was not forced by the Heavenly Father to be born, to live his life in this earth. But in humility and humbleness he chose the will of God submitting himself to it all the way up to his death of the cross. Jesus chose for himself and was not forced.

The Expanded Translation translates verse 6 this way: and WHO DID NOT AFTER WEIGHING THE FACTS, CONSIDER IT A TREASURE TO BE CLUTCHED AND RETAINED AT ALL HAZARDS, THIS BEING ON AN EQUALITY WITH DIETY, BUT HIMSELF HE EMPTIED, Himself he made void, having taken the outward expression of a bondslave, which expression comes from and is truly representative of His nature (as diety), entering into a new state of existance, that of mankind. And being found in outward guise as man, he stooped very low, having become obedient to (God the Father) to the extent of death, even as such a death as that on the cross.

I like this because it clearly says that the Word completely thought it through and did not hang onto His equality with the Father but gave up His form and position to become a bondslave to the Father. A bondslave is a freed person who chooses to become a slave out of love for the master and devotion to him.. Jesus chose to become a man and to serve the Father, even obeying Him to the point of death on the cross. He demonstrated ultimate faith and love of the Father as an example to us (v5 let this same mind be in you). He demonstrated His obedience. "Not my will but thine be done". He being fully human did not want to suffer and die on a cross. He pleaded to the point that His blood pressure caused His cappillaries to burst and to sweat blood. But He obeyed His Father and went to the cross because He so loved and trusted His Father. Jesus obeyed Him perfectly and we are told that He learned obedience by the things He suffered. He learned the full cost of perfect obedience.

Thank You, Jesus, for fulfilling the requirements of the law on our behalf through Your perfect obedience.

Amen.