Archangels

[EndSeeker]

I agree !!!

[GoldenEagle]

That sure sounds like mans theology to me.   If you do a search in scripture for the word archangel, you will find the word in just two places.  1 Thessalonians 4:16 and Jude 1:9.  This sure is not enough scripture to make any doctrine out of, or base any par of theology on.  It sounds good, but is not supported by scripture.

Yes, I would agree with OneLight here. With just two passages the concept of the archangel sounds good but is not supported by Scripture.

In 1 Thess. 4:16 the main point of the passage is to declare God's victory and the resurrection of he saints.

 

1 Thess. 4:16

¹⁶ For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

In Jude 1:9 the point of the passage is that God is the one to rebuke. Michael didn't presume to pronounce blasphemous judgement and understood that God is/was/will be the source of all power.

 

Jude 1:9

⁹ But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”

Here in Daniel Michael is shown as a warrior: Daniel 10:13-21

 

Daniel 12:1 mentions Michael in the future sense.

 

Daniel 12:1

At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

Ultimately we do know that Satan will be defeated by the armies of God lead by Michael... Remember Michael understood that through God's stregnth there was victory and therefore the dragon (Satan) was defeated along with his fallen angels.

 

Rev. 12:7-9

⁷ Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, ⁸ but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. ⁹ And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

 

God bless,

GE

[x141]

To speak to the original post ...

 

The three you refer to cannot be interpreted without all the other three's in scripture that define all together what these things mean in the language of God, and how they relate to us, and the process of his son being revealed in us, for instance where God appears to Abraham as three men, or the three feasts one is called up to Jerusalem to keep, or the three layers of Noah's ark, or Moses' tabernacle etc.

Edited December 5, 2013 by x141

[Daniel.Danford]

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the people that I have dealt with who work with Christians having problems with demons tell me that they consider us kind of like a big hotel on the top of a hill.   Each room can be lighted with the Holy Spirit, but if there is any unconfessed habitual sins within the Christian, it's kind of like emptying that part of your life from the Holy Spirit and the light in that room goes out.    Within those rooms, demons can attach themselves and make havoc in the lives of the Christian......   it also hurts their ability to spread the gospel because people see their lights dimly.   They also tell me that it is nearly impossible to rid the person of the demonic activity for any length of time if the sin is not dealt with first.

 

As long as we have sin in our lives we will have to deal with demonic forces.  If you deal with the sin, you can order the demons away from you yourself for we all have authority to do so in Jesus name.   If you keep the sin, they don't seem to be obligated to leave.

 

You should never cast a demon out of a non believer who is not ready to invite Jesus to be his Lord and accept the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.  You are really doing a great injustice to the person for the demons will not leave him alone after you leave.  Non believers do not have authority over the spiritual realm and are helpless in dealing with demonic forces.