Fez Posted December 21, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Seven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I know god uses us to help/encourage others etc. But I keep thinking we have to be all saved & "perfect" etc before we start "preaching" or giving them advice about god (e.g trust in god etc) otherwise people would look at our lives & we'd look like hypocrites. Let me address the "hypocrite" issue, as well. Giving people advice even though we may not have all of our ducks in a row is not hypocrisy. None of us always practice what we preach, but that is also not what hypocrisy is. None of us would be able to raise children if we could only instruct them in areas of our lives where we never messed up. Hypocrisy is when you condemn in other people what you justify in yourself. If you tell others that it is wrong to bear false witness, but then excuse your own false witness because you felt you had a good reason for it, that is hypocrisy. It's only hypocrisy when it's a sin for others but a virtue for yourself. People will throw around the hypocrite word as an excuse not to have to hear the truth. In truth, has any of us never been a hypocrite in our lives??? I think the answer is "no." So the accusation of hypocrisy as a means of character assassination leveled at believers is, in fact, an act of hypocrisy. Even if their are hypocrites in the Church (and there are) that still doesn't absolve a sinner from accountability before God for their own sins. They will not be able to use the "hypocrite" defense because Christianity is based on following Jesus and Jesus wasn't a hypocrite and He is the one against whom we are measured, not other people. He is the one who all of us must stand before and give an account of ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I believe suffering works in our being made perfect, you can see just in these couple of scriptures the same principle as in Jesus so likewise it speaks of we ourselves (in Christ)Heb 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.1Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sinLuke 6:4 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.1Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.As he is so are we to be in this world1John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I think we all have been hypocrites and still can be which is why it says put off hypocricies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoofyGirl Posted December 21, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 161 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 400 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 667 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks everyone for your replies! god bless you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted December 21, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,257 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 16,674 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 21, 2013 Often when I think I failed in the trial or testing, God was doing something entirely different than I thought He was teaching me. Once when I told Him that, the Still Small Voice whispered: You endured and are still faithful, aren't you? So we may be completely in error when judging ourselves. God sees you through blood colored glasses which obliderate you sinfulness and failures. While we are to inspect our lives when we go to communion, living in introspection or self condemnation is not good. And it is only God who can judge us correctly. We are all growing from glory to glory till others see more of Christ and less of ourselves in us. David, the adulterer and murderer, was a man after God's own heart. God doen't look for a person who is perfect, but one who is available, willing, and who humbly trusts in God to accomplish His task. He is made perfect in our weaknesses, not our strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 21, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 21, 2013 ??? blood colored glasses ?????? I like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 27, 2013 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,342 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 712 Days Won: 4 Joined: 09/29/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2013 Eight that agrees!!! No Christian is Perfect, We are all sinners, and we all sin, but that is why God put his Son on this Earth to Die for us on the Cross for all of our Sins so that WE CAN BE FORGIVEN!!!, and through that, not only are we forgiven but we are granted access to go into Heaven with God whenever Jesus Returns or we Die but even when you accept Christ as Lord and Savior, you may be saved and forgiven but that doesn't mean that you are perfect, because you have sinned in the past. God may have Forgiven your Sin and put it behind him but the fact of "YOU HAVE SINNED", Doesn't make you perfect!!! God bless you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Scriptures show us how the word perfect is used too, though I have found that not many quote them for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ninhao Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Scriptures show us how the word perfect is used too, though I have found that not many quote them for some reason Maybe you can present the scriptures and explain them AFlame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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