Cencore everything...

December 10, 2004

I wish to write you the same words as I wrote to IslandRose.

My pardon for not being familiar with your regulations in this forum. In some forums you are allowed to copy and paste and give links, because it's not plagiarizing if you state it that way. But I understand your point of view and I promise I will follow your manners in this case. Honestly I meant no offence.

Yet I must raise this point of view into a debate. Religious forums should not be so fundamentalistic that they cencore the opposing views. Bravery is to confort your enemy, not run away from it.

Even if I accepted God as my savior, would I be heretic to not accept Jesus Christ? Is it beyond your understanding that there are believers who choose not to worship a man who once dwelled the earth, even though this man was incredible?

I feel peace and am at ease with myself. I also have much hope and strength to carry on our mission to change the world - not into a religious cult, but into a world of many religions and many paths, yet all dedicated to ethics and human rights. I need not a man in a book like Bible, Jesus or anyone. I believe in a divine being not distant from Christian Lord, but see no need to worship a Saint.

The Bible is a great book, a mighty book. But it is not the only book. Yet I wonder why most of the fundamental Christians never read any others, yet preach against them. One should know his enemy, and love him as well.

I hope you also can find peace and accept that not everyone _needs_ a Jesus to save their lives. Some are saved already by walking their own paths.

Merry Christmas and Blessed Be,

[Ronin]

December 10, 2004

I just have one more thing to say.

You deleted both of my first posts. This is cencorship. I will write the same things personally with my own words again and wish you are able to face them. You can't really be serious and cencore everything that you don't believe in. Are you so afraid of losing your position as a 'savior'?

Shouldn't you welcome 'heretics' here as well, or is this a forum for fanatics only?

I'm stunned.

[Ronin]

Anne · December 10, 2004

Ronin,

I cannot comment on your post being deleted, as I know nothing about that.

What I would like to say is, there are not many ways to Heaven, just the one, and that is through Jesus Christ Our Lord. To believe in God, you do well, however if you have not accepted Christ Jesus as your saviour, for he is our intercessor, then you are lost my friend.

I am sorry.

Washed in the Blood of the Lamb

Anne

ayin jade · December 10, 2004

Yet I must raise this point of view into a debate. Religious forums should not be so fundamentalistic that they cencore the opposing views. Bravery is to confort your enemy, not run away from it.

You miss the point of the forums. This place exists to glorify the Lord, not man. Since it is a private message board, their rules apply.

Even if I accepted God as my savior, would I be heretic to not accept Jesus Christ? Is it beyond your understanding that there are believers who choose not to worship a man who once dwelled the earth, even though this man was incredible?

According to God, yes. You need to accept Jesus to be saved.

I feel peace and am at ease with myself. I also have much hope and strength to carry on our mission to change the world - not into a religious cult, but into a world of many religions and many paths, yet all dedicated to ethics and human rights. I need not a man in a book like Bible, Jesus or anyone. I believe in a divine being not distant from Christian Lord, but see no need to worship a Saint.

Jesus changes our hearts. We are not of this world any longer, but of His kingdom. You dont need a man, you need God, Lord, Jesus.

The Bible is a great book, a mighty book. But it is not the only book. Yet I wonder why most of the fundamental Christians never read any others, yet preach against them. One should know his enemy, and love him as well.

Another assumption on your part. I have read other books, and found that they are not the word of God. Only the bible is His word.

I hope you also can find peace and accept that not everyone _needs_ a Jesus to save their lives. Some are saved already by walking their own paths.

Merry Christmas and Blessed Be,

[Ronin]

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We have peace in Him. As far as accepting that not everyone needs Jesus....on what authority do you claim this? I have God's word telling me that only through Jesus can mankind come to God. I accept God's authority over your authority.

December 10, 2004

You deleted both of my first posts. This is cencorship. I will write the same things personally with my own words again and wish you are able to face them. You can't really be serious and cencore everything that you don't believe in. Are you so afraid of losing your position as a 'savior'?

Ronin,

I am going to tell you what I said in another thread. The complaint about censorship does not apply here. These are privately owned boards. It is at the discretion of the owner what can and cannot be posted here. I don't know why your post was deleted, but this is a very carefully moderated board. It is no different than being invited into someone's home. If you are offensive to them, and they ask you cease, and you continue in being offensive, they have the right to ask you to leave and never return if you continue to ignore their request. These boards are, from a legal standpoint, private property, therefore censorship is an empty charge.

The owner of this board has been called by the Lord into this ministry. He is accountable to the Lord as to how these boards are managed. It has nothing to do with being afraid of anyone challenging our position. It has to do with what is edifying to others and what glorifies the Lord.

The purpose of these boards is to glorify God and preach the gospel. We are not here to justify ourselves to you or anyone else. We do not have to prove our faith. We are called to live as lights, leading others to Christ. You can comply with the stated purpose of these boards, or find other message boards where your posts would be more accepted. Either way, the focus of these boards will remain on Jesus, and that which goes crosswise with that focus and detracts from Jesus, will continue to be deleted.

I would suggest that you go back and read the mission statement of these boards to get an idea as to what would be acceptable or not.

Matthitjah · December 10, 2004

Ronin,

You were not censored. You were asked to not post links to other sites. Quite politely I might add. As it is in the Terms of Service you agreed to when you joined? It should be no small problem.

Now I see a bit of disengenious slight on your hand.

Also accusations.

The Bible states quite clearly who the accuser of the brethren is. I for one am quite tired of him this week.

I will now close this thread.

I want to show all the PM you recieved just so we know the Truth;

Ronin,

I deleted the links from your post in your thread "Know thy enemy." Links to non christian sites are not allowed according to our TOS. If you wish to argue your case for evolution, I suggest you state your thesis and debate in a civil manner those who wish to join in and defend their position. Copy and pastes or posting links to other sites is not an effective way to prove your point.

You are welcome here, as long as you are willing to post in a civil and responsible way.

I pray you find the hope and peace that are only found in a relationship with Our Father through His Son, Jesus Christ.

IR

That said? I want to add that the fact that you find us unfair has no bearing on who Christ is or whether or not you think it is fair. If we are all translated tomorrow? You will still have to deal with an incredible man(your words) who has overcome this world and defeated sin and death. By which you are even now condemned. These are not my words but the Word of God which never fails. Not one jot nor tittle.

If you desire to stay on this forum? Please post in accordance with what sister Rose has already clearly and politely asked.