OakWood Posted March 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted March 18, 2014 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Revelation 19 (KJV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted March 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2014 How do you get slavery out that verse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe_fantastic Posted March 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 868 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/09/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1981 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yeah, I'm sure not seeing slavery there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted March 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2014 There is not one mention of slavery in the entire 19th chapter of Revelation. I'm curious as well how do you get slavery out of that one verse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRS81 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Slavery: 'and he shall rule them with a rod of iron' But I think the OP is mistaking an ungodly human ruler vs. Jesus Christ ruling, as in a slave to godliness and goodness, lol... http://www.easyenglish.info/bible-commentary/revelation-lbw.htm Verse 15 The rider on the white horse has a sharp sword. It seems to come from his mouth. This description shows us the power of his words. They are like a sword that cuts his enemies to pieces. He will speak and, by his words, he will defeat the nations. Christ overcomes all by the words of his power. This is what Isaiah the *prophet said. ‘He will strike the earth with the bar of his mouth. With the breath of his lips, he will kill the wicked people.’ (Isaiah 11:4). He will rule the nations like a *shepherd with an iron stick. An iron stick is strong and it will not bend. So, Christ will be strict when he rules the nations. He will punish all who do not obey him. (See Psalm 2:9.) Pulpit Commentary http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-15.htm Verse 15. - And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a red of iron. The description is still similar to that given in Revelation 1. (see Revelation 1:16; Revelation 2:12, 16). (For the last clause, see Revelation 2:27; Revelation 12:5; and cf. Isaiah 63:3.) The symbolism is descriptive of warfare, victory, and judgment. "He" is emphatic: "he shall rule" - no longer the kings of the earth. The nations; in the sense of the ungodly (cf. Revelation 16:19, etc.). Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-15.htm he shall rule—The HE is emphatic, He and none other, in contrast to the usurpers who have misruled on earth. "Rule," literally, "tend as a shepherd"; but here in a punitive sense. He, who would have shepherded them with pastoral rod and with the golden scepter of His love, shall dash them in pieces, as refractory rebels, with "a rod of iron." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted March 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't even know why I started this post. I forget what I was actually asking. I forget what I meant. Sorry..... but do carry on.... it's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRS81 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't even know why I started this post. I forget what I was actually asking. I forget what I meant. Sorry..... but do carry on.... it's interesting. Never apologize for opening up scripture. You chose a really good one Oak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted March 18, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Right, I think I remember now - here goes: Paul gives advice on how masters should treat slaves and how slaves should behave towards masters. The Thousand-year reign will consist of bunches of misfits (IMHO). Leaders will be selected from those who were beheaded. They have earned it. I imagine there will be a pecking order based around this. The people at the bottom will have only just acquired salvation by the skin of their teeth. They will need discipline and correction (in a loving way). They will still be happy but with less privileges. Could the people right at the very bottom live as slaves or serfs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 19, 2014 Moved to proper forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oak,you mean Revelation 19:18 that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all people, free[a] and slave, both small and great.” No there will not be slavery.That ended in the 1800's thank God :grin:But I do not know what the meaning of slave is in the above verse.Does anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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