Is being gay okay to God?

[Arthur Durnan]

One has to smile at those getting "spaced out" re the blatant sin of homosexuality. Jesus Christ Himself calls for MALE / FEMALE marriage in Matthew 19, so why the Same Old, Same Old emphasis on "why not homosexuals?" on into the night? "Sin, when it is finished, brings forth death." Could words be plainer? Because someone "cruises on empty" re this vital issue is not reason to accord it flags & banners.

GOD BLESS PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

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Folks, we were set up to be told off it would seem and in not very nice language either.

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I think you're right, Reb. The topic title is a question leading posters to think there was a discussion wanted. Now I get it.

I am not God so I couldn't tell you whether or not he doesn't like homosexuality because to me, and this will probally tick alot of people off, the bible has been written so many times by many different people

[Guest NH_Marine15]

I did need help into dealing with this but i'm sick and tired of people bashing me because of it!

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Oh, for Heaven's sake. I just re-read every post on this thread. Not one person bashed you. Everyone was really nice and helpful. Obviously you didn't get the answers you wanted so now you are crying 'bashed'. That isn't right, and it's very frustrating.

You posted:

Hi people! It's me Marine. I'm glad all of you are posting your opinions but the only one that counts and matters is that of God.

Then why did you even post the topic if you don't desire opinions and answers?

What exactly were your intentions when you posted this question as a topic?

I did need help into dealing with this

Okay, please tell us what exactly it is you needed help with. You asked a question and people answered it. Evidently, that isn't what you wanted. Please tell us what help you need.

[Guest NH_Marine15]

What I wanted was for people to try and understand where I am coming from and to give me good advice not advice that is bad and being rude to me. I don't exacally know what it is I am looking for but some of you, to me, have been a bit rude and that is what I don't appreiciate. So, if anyon has anyhting nice to add and nice advice to give me then a I am all ears and if not then, I don't want it. I am not crying " Oh boo hoo everyone is bashing me!" That wasn't my point and I didn't point the finger at anyone. Some people said that I need to realize that homosexuality is a sin and that instead of being happy for my sister, I need to talk to her about it and if I don't, then I'm not doing my part as a good christian. So, I guess people hate this subject and some people find it interesting. Bottom line is, I talked to both my sister and her girlfriend and they only confussed me more. I am so happy that she is happy and I really don't know what to do anymore. It breaks my heart because I have always wanted an older sister, just not one that is gay. it really hurts to know that. So, if I was rude and confussing to some of you then I appologize. It is a hard situation to handle and to even talk about but it does help to let out some steam!

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What I wanted was for people to try and understand where I am coming from and to give me good advice not advice that is bad and being rude to me.

What advice did you think was "bad"?

I didn't see anyone being rude to you. Please elaborate.

So, if anyon has anyhting nice to add and nice advice to give me then a I am all ears

That's all I saw - nice advice. So I guess I really can't help you there .

So, I guess people hate this subject

No, not at all. If they hated this subject, you wouldn't have gotten so many responses trying to help and encourage you.

Bottom line is, I talked to both my sister and her girlfriend and they only confussed me more.

Don't let them do that. Of course they are going to rationalize their relationship and try to tell you and the world that it is "right". But you know better. You've done your best to portray that to them and they refuse it. Let it go then. Rely on the Holy Spirit.

It breaks my heart because I have always wanted an older sister, just not one that is gay.

I'm really sorry that you are suffering. Unfortunately, we can't "make" the people we love act a certain way. Accept that she is a homosexual. That does NOT mean that you condone it. But don't let it define your relationship. You have told her how you feel and what God says and you have to leave it there. You still have a sister. Focus on all of the good things about her that you enjoy. There is nothing that says you can't go shopping with a sister that is homosexual. Nothing that says you can't do "sister stuff" with her. Enjoy all of those things and leave the homosexual thing alone. Chances are that, if you don't bring it up, she won't either. Of course, if she flaunts it, then you'll have to tell her gently but firmly that you can't be a party to that and you'd rather not discuss it. But there are many other aspects to your sister than just her sexual choices. Enjoy those and let God take care of the other. And pray for her a lot.

It is a hard situation to handle and to even talk about but it does help to let out some steam!

Then I suggest a "I'm gonna vent now!" topic, rather than a topic that seems to be asking for advice and opinions.

This is a good place to come to to vent. And for advice too.

[followerofjesus]

If your looking for earcandy your in the wrong place.

[dwinkjr]

Marine,

I am sorry if you took any of the earlier posts to be offensive. I wish I could sit here and tell you that your sister will be just fine and that what she is doing is ok. I wish life was that simple, but its not. Your sister is lost in sin, a sin that she is trying to justify. I can relate to her situation. I have been with my wife now for close to 7yrs. We have only been married for almost 3 now. Before we were married and came to know the Lord we had physical relations, even after we came to know the Lord we continued in our willful sin, we made exuses for it, we tried to justify it. Now we really did know that what we were doing was wrong, and honestly it became less enjoyable because of that.

We were playing with fire, we were living in unrepented sin, and WE KNEW IT. WE justified it saying we were happy, we loved one another, we were GOING to get married SOMEDAY.

Now that being said if I had died at that point in my life I would of had God to answer to, and those exuses would of meant nothing to him. Sin is sin no matter how much we try to justify it.

You cannot stand by and idlely allow your sister to live this life style without making it very clear how you feel about. She is an adult and she will make her own choices, but you cannot lend support or approval to those choices in the slightest bit.

Your sister may never get rid of the urge or attraction towards women all together, but she can choose to turn away from it and toward God. She does not need to choose to act upon those urges. Temptation is not sin, acting upon it is. Pray for your sister talk to your sister and Study God's word for guidance in talking with your sister. If talking to her confuses you, get yourself firmly grounded in God's word before you try to discuss this with her, be prepared for what she will try to tell you, so oyu can show her what God's word really says.

Oh yes and for the record, many people will try to use Song's of Solomon to show that homosexuality was ok, but that book was not written by Solomon it was a letter from his wife to Solomon.

Now about your comment about the Bible being rewritten by men so many times. The bible is the Word of God, he has preserved it as such, the Bible is a collection of books and letters written by the Apostles and those who were with them. The Bible is infallable, No matter which modern translation you pick up, they all tell the same story in the same way. They all Teach the gospel of Jesus Christ, and they all teach that homosexuality is a sin and should be repented of.

The verses you should study have been provided earlier in this thread, but I would also direct you to the father on this matter. Maybe it is time you spend an hour or so of quiet time just talking to him about this?

I will pray for you and your sister on this matter, I understand it is hard to turn from things we think make us so happy in life. But nothing compares to the true peace and happiness we recieve when we follow the command of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

God Bless,

Dave

[Guest NH_Marine15]

Dear Dave,

Thank you for your kind words. i guess I am just upset at my sister for her ways and I have been letting my frustrations out on all of you. I confuse myself with this too. I am slowly but surely learning the Word of God and I know in time, my sister will get the lust out of her and be the person I know she is. Thank you all so much for everything and I do appologize for any confussion.

[dwinkjr]

Dear Dave,

Thank you for your kind words.  i guess I am just upset at my sister for her ways and I have been letting my frustrations out on all of you.  I confuse myself with this too.  I am slowly but surely learning the Word of God and I know in time, my sister will get the lust out of her and be the person I know she is.  Thank you all so much for everything and I do appologize for any confussion.

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Thank you for realizing your anger was not with us. May I suggest further that you donot be angry with your sister, be loving. Talk to her in Love, show her she is in Sin and that you love her enough to want to see her be made right with the Lord. The path she walks is a wide and easy path, but it leads in the wrong direction. The devil has sunk his claws into her and this "church" (I use the term loosely) she is attending is nothing but a creation of the Devil himself, the church is decieving these people into believing what they are doing is ok. I think the first step may be to get her to attend a different church, as long as she has other "christians" helping her justify her sin, she will not repent of it.

God Bless,

Dave