Need Hebrew Scholar or Very Wise

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What version are you using?

And have you seen the verses surrounding what you have posted? You know, keeping things in context?

1. Phillipians 2:9 said, The Almighty already gave Him a name...man cannot give Him a name...

Philippians 2:9-11 (KJV)

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

2. Acts 4:12 said, theres no salvation in any other names, except the one name that the Most High gave...Once man gives a name, there is no longer salvation in man's name.

Acts 4:10-12 (KJV)

10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

3. Psalms 86:11 said, Learn the truth that you may fear His name in the truth...Those who reject the true name, refuse to learn the truth, and rather call a false name given by man, instead of calling the true name given by the Yehowah in Hebrew...

Psalm 86:11 (KJV)

Teach me thy way, O LORD; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name.

Where do you see this "true name" stuff in this verse?

BTW, in Hebrew, they often say Ha'shem, translated in English "the Name" to refer to the Lord.

Example: where in English we would say, "Blessed be the name of the Lord!" in Hebrew they say, "Baruch Ha'Shem!" which literally translates to, "Blessed be the Name!" It is understood that they mean the Lord.

Clearly, you are reading into the word of God something that is not there.

[Botz]

I reckon its time to get a life.

You keep inserting the word 'true' when it comes to the 'name of the L-rd'.

For example...

1 John 3

23And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son...

It's His commandment that we must believe on the true name of His Son...

In the JFB commentary he writes..

"on the name of his Son"--on all that is revealed in the Gospel concerning Him, and on Himself in respect to His person, offices, and atoning work.

The emphasis is NOT on the actual verbalization,visualization or pronounciation of the NAME... the whole thrust is on who Yeshua/Jesus is and what He has done...by inserting the word 'true' into the equation...ie 'true name' you take away the intent of Scripture and try to introduce an idea/doctrine that is incorrect and ultimately divisive.

You end on this note...

I have told you the knowledge of the truth...It's up to you, wether you will support man's false lying made up name...Or will you abide in the truth and know the truth, that you may be free from ignorance and sin, whereas lying against the truth is a sin?

Well you have done your duty and let us have your version of what you consider an important issue...personally I find it misguided,misleading and a misrepresentation of the Gospel and will take my chances with the One who judges Righteously.

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Okay, since the thread I started has gone way off the topic of impure animals/creatures and I can't get anyone to help me...I'll start a NEW thread...

I give up.

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didn't we cover that already? It's not good for you. Eat if you want though.

"all things are permissable but not all things edify..."

Nobody addressed the scriptures concerning the truth about His true name,

oh but we did! You don't have to agree but don't act like your question wasn't thoroughly answered.

whereas the scriptures told us to tell the truth and not lie about His name..

huh? What verse do you think tells us that?

.It also says that He was given a name already, but you seem not to choose the name that was given to man...Why do you support the name that man gave and not honor the name that Yahh already had given?

If my friend doesn't mind me calling him "John" when his actual name is Juan then who are you to say it is wrong?

A name is only a representation of a person just like musical notes on a page are only a representation of music and the not the actual music itself. Just as those musical notes must be played before it is actually experienced as music, having a proper spelling and and pronunciation of someone's name is not the same thing as knowing them.

His earthly name speaks something of His character. As you are aware, "Yeshua" is an actual hebrew word which translated into English means SALVATION (in the present tense). The name He has written on His leg (Revelation) is a name that no man knows...and it will reveal something new to us about His character...but His name is not Him. It is a verbal sound which represents Him, ya know?

Admittely, the name "Jesus" has no meaning because it is an attempt at finding an English equivalent of the Greek translation of the hebrew word "yeshua" but the PERSON whose character is communicated by whatever language you choose to translate from is the same ben David ben Elohim.

I consider you a dear friend and wouldn't want to offend you over this...but it really does smack of straining gnats, imo.