PR tactics of hamas

[ayin jade]

Israel needs to start some pr stuff on their own too.

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4552553,00.html

[Burning_Ember]

I really don't think Israel is in a place where they can win the PR war by any real means.

[Guest shiloh357]

I really don't think Israel is in a place where they can win the PR war by any real means.

Israel can't win the PR war as long as the liberal media embraces the terrorists' narrative of the conflict and ignores the truth.

[Burning_Ember]

 

I really don't think Israel is in a place where they can win the PR war by any real means.

Israel can't win the PR war as long as the liberal media embraces the terrorists' narrative of the conflict and ignores the truth.

 

Younger activists who have a much better grasp on social/new media are able to communicate their message much more quickly, effectively, and easily. Pro-Palestine outreach in social media especially is probably 5x more effective at least.

 

Younger people who aren't American Conservatives have a value system that will align more with a human rights/international law/ending military occupation kind of arguments, typically more the basis for what Pro-Palestine activists believe. That's why they are more successful. 

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

I really don't think Israel is in a place where they can win the PR war by any real means.

Israel can't win the PR war as long as the liberal media embraces the terrorists' narrative of the conflict and ignores the truth.

 

Younger activists who have a much better grasp on social/new media are able to communicate their message much more quickly, effectively, and easily. Pro-Palestine outreach in social media especially is probably 5x more effective at least.

 

Younger people who aren't American Conservatives have a value system that will align more with a human rights/international law/ending military occupation kind of arguments, typically more the basis for what Pro-Palestine activists believe. That's why they are more successful. 

 

Baloney....   Israel is using social media and there are thousands of pro-Israel social media sites on facebook alone.   Twitter and every facet of social media is being used by Israel and by Israelis.  Israel is not losing because Jews don't understand how to use social media.   Jews INVENTED social media!    The problem is that liberals, are typically more anti-Semitic and tend to be uniformed when it comes to the facts about this conflict. 

 

What younger, uniformed liberals don't understand about this conflict is that this is not a human rights/international law war against against Israel.  Israel isn't occupying anyone.   This war began before there ever was a Jew in either the West Bank or Gaza.

 

This is a war against Israel's very existence since the 1940s.  Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinians.  This is not a civil rights or human rights campaign they are engaging in.  They are using their own people as pawns and purposely ramping up the civilian fatality and casualty rates in order to gain propaganda points.  They are the ones committing the human rights atrocities.   Israel does everything they can to minimize these casualties but Hamas does everything it can to maximize the human rights atrocities by using their own people whom they consider expendable, as human shields.

 

Younger people who are not conservatives don't really have much of an intellectual grasp on what is happening on the ground and really have no business protesting what they don't understand. 

 

The whole canard about "occupation" is just an intellectual farce.

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

 

I really don't think Israel is in a place where they can win the PR war by any real means.

Israel can't win the PR war as long as the liberal media embraces the terrorists' narrative of the conflict and ignores the truth.

 

Younger activists who have a much better grasp on social/new media are able to communicate their message much more quickly, effectively, and easily. Pro-Palestine outreach in social media especially is probably 5x more effective at least.

 

Younger people who aren't American Conservatives have a value system that will align more with a human rights/international law/ending military occupation kind of arguments, typically more the basis for what Pro-Palestine activists believe. That's why they are more successful. 

 

Baloney....   Israel is using social media and there are thousands of pro-Israel social media sites on facebook alone.   Twitter and every facet of social media is being used by Israel and by Israelis.  Israel is not losing because Jews don't understand how to use social media.   Jews INVENTED social media!    The problem is that liberals, are typically more anti-Semitic and tend to be uniformed when it comes to the facts about this conflict. 

 

Compare these two:

http://www.hashtags.org/analytics/gazaunderattack/

http://www.hashtags.org/analytics/israelunderattack/

Note how currently the israelunderattack hashtag is average about 1% the usage of other the other gazaunderattack hashtag. The protests in cities have been much, much larger on the Palestinian side than the Israeli side.

 

That's because social media outreach is far stronger for Pro Palestinian Activists. It's not even comparable. Who invented social media does not matter.

 

Pretty much every Palestinian Activist I've spoken to cares about the number of civilians killed in the conflict, and don't go around talking about how much they hate Jews, which is a very uncommon belief.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Pretty much every Palestinian Activist I've spoken to cares about the number of civilians killed in the conflict, and don't go around talking about how much they hate Jews, which is a very uncommon belief.

 

They only care about the civilian casualties to the extent that they can smear Israel.  When people think they can pin atrocities on the Jews, they scream and rant about mean ol' Israel.   But there is virtually nothing said when it's Palestinians killing each other.  

 

There have been numerous Palestinians murdered by Hamas & Co.  because they are suspected collaborators with Israel.  That's the excuse they use when some Palestinian dare to challenge them or disagree with their methods.   They try to justify their murders by claiming they were executing collaborators, which even if true is still not grounds for murder.

 

The pro-Palestinian supporters really don't care about civilian casualties.  If they did, they would be holding Hamas accountable and they aren't.  They just blame Israel for the deaths, even though it is Israel doing everything they can to minimize civilian causalities. 

 

Israel has even set up a field hospital for injured Palestinians, assuming they can get to the hospital before being tortured and murdered by Hamas.   It is not Israel who is guilty of the human rights violations.  It is clearly on Hamas' head.

 

This latest UN school that was bombed?   If it is found to have been the result of something Hamas did, the story will be dropped and buried and no one will talk about it.  They don't care about civilian casualties unless they can pin it on the Jews.

 

There are thousands more civilians being murdered in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Egypt and no one really cares. They can't pin those murders on Israel.   So this is nothing more than selective outrage.   The pro-Palestinian supporters don't know what they are talking about and their support for the Palestinians is really nothing more than a veiled hatred for Israel.  

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

Pretty much every Palestinian Activist I've spoken to cares about the number of civilians killed in the conflict, and don't go around talking about how much they hate Jews, which is a very uncommon belief.

 

They only care about the civilian casualties to the extent that they can smear Israel.  When people think they can pin atrocities on the Jews, they scream and rant about mean ol' Israel.   But there is virtually nothing said when it's Palestinians killing each other.  

 

There have been numerous Palestinians murdered by Hamas & Co.  because they are suspected collaborators with Israel.  That's the excuse they use when some Palestinian dare to challenge them or disagree with their methods.   They try to justify their murders by claiming they were executing collaborators, which even if true is still not grounds for murder.

 

The pro-Palestinian supporters really don't care about civilian casualties.  If they did, they would be holding Hamas accountable and they aren't.  They just blame Israel for the deaths, even though it is Israel doing everything they can to minimize civilian causalities. 

 

Israel has even set up a field hospital for injured Palestinians, assuming they can get to the hospital before being tortured and murdered by Hamas.   It is not Israel who is guilty of the human rights violations.  It is clearly on Hamas' head.

 

This latest UN school that was bombed?   If it is found to have been the result of something Hamas did, the story will be dropped and buried and no one will talk about it.  They don't care about civilian casualties unless they can pin it on the Jews.

 

There are thousands more civilians being murdered in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Egypt and no one really cares. They can't pin those murders on Israel.   So this is nothing more than selective outrage.   The pro-Palestinian supporters don't know what they are talking about and their support for the Palestinians is really nothing more than a veiled hatred for Israel.  

 

When was the last time you were at a protest or something of that nature and actually asked a few activists what they believed?

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

Pretty much every Palestinian Activist I've spoken to cares about the number of civilians killed in the conflict, and don't go around talking about how much they hate Jews, which is a very uncommon belief.

 

They only care about the civilian casualties to the extent that they can smear Israel.  When people think they can pin atrocities on the Jews, they scream and rant about mean ol' Israel.   But there is virtually nothing said when it's Palestinians killing each other.  

 

There have been numerous Palestinians murdered by Hamas & Co.  because they are suspected collaborators with Israel.  That's the excuse they use when some Palestinian dare to challenge them or disagree with their methods.   They try to justify their murders by claiming they were executing collaborators, which even if true is still not grounds for murder.

 

The pro-Palestinian supporters really don't care about civilian casualties.  If they did, they would be holding Hamas accountable and they aren't.  They just blame Israel for the deaths, even though it is Israel doing everything they can to minimize civilian causalities. 

 

Israel has even set up a field hospital for injured Palestinians, assuming they can get to the hospital before being tortured and murdered by Hamas.   It is not Israel who is guilty of the human rights violations.  It is clearly on Hamas' head.

 

This latest UN school that was bombed?   If it is found to have been the result of something Hamas did, the story will be dropped and buried and no one will talk about it.  They don't care about civilian casualties unless they can pin it on the Jews.

 

There are thousands more civilians being murdered in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Egypt and no one really cares. They can't pin those murders on Israel.   So this is nothing more than selective outrage.   The pro-Palestinian supporters don't know what they are talking about and their support for the Palestinians is really nothing more than a veiled hatred for Israel.  

 

When was the last time you were at a protest or something of that nature and actually asked a few activists what they believed?

 

At the campus of my hometown at MSU.   Palestinian supporters are pretty much intolerant people who shout you down when you bring up the issue of the Hamas' or PLO's treatment of Palestinian people, such as the way they persecute Palestinian Christians.  They don't want to talk about how Yasir Arafat and the Palestinian authority abused Christians in Bethlehem and confiscated their property.

 

They don't want to talk about how Palestinian leadership in both Hamas and Fatah murder any Palestinians who questions whether or not terrorism is a good means of achieving their political goals.

 

They don't want to talk about how Israel built schools for the Palestinians that were later closed down by the Palestinian authority (Fatah) and turned into weapons depots. 

 

The pro-Palestinian supporters really run a useless campaign and are basically apologists for the terrorists.  They only want to talk about the plight of the Palestinians when they can pin it on Israel.   Most of the Palestinians' problems are self-inflicted, but that is ignored.

 

So to be honest, I really don't think they care one bit for the Palestinians.  If they cared about the Palestinians, they would support Israel.  Israel treats the Palestinians better the Palestinians' own leadership.  They only care about the Palestinians to the degree that they can exploit them to smear Israel.  

 

Hamas isn't fighting a human rights war.   The Palestinian supporters here in America don't seem to get that.   They don't understand that Hamas would murder them right along with the Israelis.  Hamas is a bloodthirsty terrorist regime that needs to be eradicated from the earth.  They are thugs who don't belong on this planet.  

 

Palestinian supporters are either too dull to understand that they are supporting terrorism, or they are too wicked to want to.

[Burning_Ember]

 

 

 

 

Pretty much every Palestinian Activist I've spoken to cares about the number of civilians killed in the conflict, and don't go around talking about how much they hate Jews, which is a very uncommon belief.

 

They only care about the civilian casualties to the extent that they can smear Israel.  When people think they can pin atrocities on the Jews, they scream and rant about mean ol' Israel.   But there is virtually nothing said when it's Palestinians killing each other.  

 

There have been numerous Palestinians murdered by Hamas & Co.  because they are suspected collaborators with Israel.  That's the excuse they use when some Palestinian dare to challenge them or disagree with their methods.   They try to justify their murders by claiming they were executing collaborators, which even if true is still not grounds for murder.

 

The pro-Palestinian supporters really don't care about civilian casualties.  If they did, they would be holding Hamas accountable and they aren't.  They just blame Israel for the deaths, even though it is Israel doing everything they can to minimize civilian causalities. 

 

Israel has even set up a field hospital for injured Palestinians, assuming they can get to the hospital before being tortured and murdered by Hamas.   It is not Israel who is guilty of the human rights violations.  It is clearly on Hamas' head.

 

This latest UN school that was bombed?   If it is found to have been the result of something Hamas did, the story will be dropped and buried and no one will talk about it.  They don't care about civilian casualties unless they can pin it on the Jews.

 

There are thousands more civilians being murdered in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Egypt and no one really cares. They can't pin those murders on Israel.   So this is nothing more than selective outrage.   The pro-Palestinian supporters don't know what they are talking about and their support for the Palestinians is really nothing more than a veiled hatred for Israel.  

 

When was the last time you were at a protest or something of that nature and actually asked a few activists what they believed?

 

At the campus of my hometown at MSU.   Palestinian supporters are pretty much intolerant people who shout you down when you bring up the issue of the Hamas' or PLO's treatment of Palestinian people, such as the way they persecute Palestinian Christians.  They don't want to talk about how Yasir Arafat and the Palestinian authority abused Christians in Bethlehem and confiscated their property.

 

They don't want to talk about how Palestinian leadership in both Hamas and Fatah murder any Palestinians who questions whether or not terrorism is a good means of achieving their political goals.

 

They don't want to talk about how Israel built schools for the Palestinians that were later closed down by the Palestinian authority (Fatah) and turned into weapons depots. 

 

The pro-Palestinian supporters really run a useless campaign and are basically apologists for the terrorists.  They only want to talk about the plight of the Palestinians when they can pin it on Israel.   Most of the Palestinians' problems are self-inflicted, but that is ignored.

 

So to be honest, I really don't think they care one bit for the Palestinians.  If they cared about the Palestinians, they would support Israel.  Israel treats the Palestinians better the Palestinians' own leadership.  They only care about the Palestinians to the degree that they can exploit them to smear Israel.  

 

Hamas isn't fighting a human rights war.   The Palestinian supporters here in America don't seem to get that.   They don't understand that Hamas would murder them right along with the Israelis.  Hamas is a bloodthirsty terrorist regime that needs to be eradicated from the earth.  They are thugs who don't belong on this planet.  

 

Palestinian supporters are either too dull to understand that they are supporting terrorism, or they are too wicked to want to.

 

Palestine Activists take civilian deaths much more seriously, and generally assign responsibility to those who dropped the bomb or fired the rocket. They care about the Geneva Conventions. Or human rights. Or military occupation, as those are viewed by them as bad. That's why they criticize the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, or civilian deaths, because they care about people who are suffering.

 

Saying you don't think they really do care because if they did they would support Israel is simply a strawman.