Why are we all so pro israel here?

[Guest yod]

The title to that land and all other land is God's

Ok, so gods on you're side. but the Arabs dont beleive in that god, they say Allah gave them the land, so its you're word against theirs, no one is right.

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Then I suppose we will see whose God is the Lord soon enough...

[Budman]

I know the scriptures well

You don't know the Scriptures at all, Daniel. And I can say, as a believer in Christ Jesus, you are no Christian.

No true Christian has a hatred for the Jews. From reading your posts, it is quite obvious, you hate the Jews. You seem to forget, Jesus was a Jew.

Do you know who hates the Jews most of all? Satan.

Do you know why? Because God the Father brought the Messiah, and thus salvation to the world, through the Jewish people.

I want to warn you Daniel, from the Scriptures you claim to know so well, that God is bringing a curse upon you.

The Bible says: 'Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, and from your relatives and from your father's house, to the land which I will show you; And I will make you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed." (Genesis 12:1-3)

Those are God's words, not mine.

warm regards

-bud

[Guest shiloh357]

I know the scriptures well

You don't know the Scriptures at all, Daniel. And I can say, as a believer in Christ Jesus, you are no Christian.

No true Christian has a hatred for the Jews. From reading your posts, it is quite obvious, you hate the Jews. You seem to forget, Jesus was a Jew.

Do you know who hates the Jews most of all? Satan.

Do you know why? Because God the Father brought the Messiah, and thus salvation to the world, through the Jewish people.

I want to warn you Daniel, from the Scriptures you claim to know so well, that God is bringing a curse upon you.

The Bible says: 'Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, and from your relatives and from your father's house, to the land which I will show you; And I will make you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed." (Genesis 12:1-3)

Those are God's words, not mine.

warm regards

-bud

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AMEN!!!

[Daniel9601]

The jews seem easy to manipulate. Say the words "anti semnitic" and they are at the speaker's throat. Easy to move pawns. Easily angered, and easy to use. Killing machines.

[Guest shiloh357]

The jews seem easy to manipulate.  Say the words "anti semnitic" and they are at the speaker's throat.  Easy to move pawns.  Easily angered, and easy to use.  Killing machines.

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NO, it is your uncivilized and haterful tones that reveal what you are. You jumped on this board and made a bunch of hateful remarks and accusations that you cannnot even defend, accused Jews of things they are not guilty of, and declared your hate of the nation of Israel, and then wonder why people think your anti-Semitic.

You have done nothing but spew hate and gross misinformation that is so typical of anti-Semites, and in another post you cited the Hamas website as a source for your position.

There is enough posts from you in two days to show anyone that you are governed by hate for Jews. Your hate is so strong that you even reject the Word of God when it is provided.

[apothanein kerdos]

The jews seem easy to manipulate.

[Daniel9601]

I am intriueged, not annoyed, by your lack of democracy, because you just shout at me whenever i voice an opinion.

I am anti Israel, never Jews. I know of some jews, and in Hackney, London, there is a large community. They keep themselves to themselves, i see no reason to hate them, a few used to go to a local football club i attended. I don't recall spraying bullets at them with my m-16 ?

You're either a Nazi or an Islamic Fundamentalist Arab

Or just someone who has come to doubt Israel's moral orientation, i dont own a gun, and as a christian i dont beleive in killing.

I am hardly anti israel at all infact, i dont back the arabs, and i dont hate Shaaron. I think he is a perfect president for Israel, shame about whenever he suggests to pull out of Gaza the Israelis say no. I'll say it again, im just someone who has come to question Israel's moral orientation. In a democracy (such as yours) am i not allowed to voice my opinion? Do you shout down non-likud party members by saying "NAZI NAZI OUT OUT OUT!!!" No. of course you do not, so do not do the same to me.

I can see why you do think i am an Arab fundamentalist, in your own strange way. i read Hamasonline regularly, so do journalists, does that make them terrorists? I laugh at most of it, because it is so one sided. I read haaretz.com a credible Israeli news website. I like to see both sides of the argument, and hamasonline.com is the most hate filled of the two [palestinian news, and israeli news].

I admit, in a few posts i said it is possible (because of course it possible when you think about it?) to kill jews. The killers should be prosecuted. And no i wouldnt do anything if i saw a dying Jew, other than call an ambulance, because quite frankly doctors know more than i do, and i wouldnt take on a palestinian if i saw one attacking a jew; why? because police are better armed and better trained at dealing with the situation than myself. So if i do nothing, i am helping the Jew, or whoever, more.

[Guest yod]

Ah...you are English. That explains a lot.

The BBC has poisoned you.

I'm a bit confused though...you speak as if you think you are christian but the things you say, tell me you aren't. Which is it?

Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom.

But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth.

This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic.

For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.

But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.

And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

[angels4u]

Hi Daniel,

I read your question and can't help but wonder what you believe, do you mind sharing ?

Are you a born again Christian?

Do you know for sure if you are saved?

Who saved you and from what?

Who is Jesus to you??

Angels

[Daniel9601]

yes to all, but thats not the debate. And the BBC does a fine job.

Ah...you are English. That explains a lot.

The BBC has poisoned you.

so quick to judge!

But thats not about the debate.

Read my post again, and say something relevant, not about me, but about myideas.

BTW im going camping into the countryside, so you guys have a weekend to shout at me and say im ingnorant, and the usual, as much as you like

have fun

Edited January 7, 2005 by Daniel9601