Retrobyter Posted September 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,608 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,452 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Shalom, other one. Bad choice of example...... I had a dozen donut holes for breakfast. Yeah, no analogy is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted September 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Funny how perspective changes everything. Evil seems like such a small thing to an all powerful God but demonstrably enormous to a tiny human such as I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,234 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,956 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2014 Shalom, other one. Bad choice of example...... I had a dozen donut holes for breakfast. Yeah, no analogy is perfect. My cardiologist might actually consider donut holes evil....... Pondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow Posted September 26, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 22 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Can anyone explain? why did God create evil? Is He not a good God? Is He not love? If you can explain this,then you are on strong meat. You have been weaned from the breast. jesse God did not create evil. He created free will. Evil is merely the absence of good. Albert Einstien offered an excellent summation of this problem when he confronted a teacher about issues of the existence of God and of good and evil. It would seem I can't post the dramatization of Einstein's excellent argument, so here is a brief transcript of what he said: A.E. "Does cold exist?" Teacher: "What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" A.E. "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Professor, does darkness exist?" Teacher: "Of course it does." A.E. "You are wrong, sir, darkness does not exist, either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study but not darkness. Evil does not exist. It is just like darkness and cold. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart." Albert Einstein, 1879-1955. "Evil" in reality, is the absence of God in man's thoughts, words, and deeds. The apostle Paul believed this very thing 2,000 years ago when he wrote this: Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Romans 1:28-32 (NIV2011) The depraved mind is the mind separated from the knowledge and acknowledgement of God. God, therefore, did not create evil. If He did, He would not be just in condemning it. Edited September 26, 2014 by Stormcrow youtube video link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faith pleases God Posted September 26, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 653 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 189 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/18/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/26/1977 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Evil teaches us new things, incredible things about God and glorifies Him!! We now know him as a savior from sin, judgement and death. We know Him as a judge of justice. A Lord who forgives, protects and defends from evil. A God of mercy, compassion, and grace. A comforter in our suffering. A provider in our poverty. He covers our nakedness. He is our healer and we know Him as one because of infirmities, illness, and disease. And so much more. We see Him as providing a way out of temptations. We can grow deeper in our choice of choosing faith, hope, and love in spite of evil. We can overcome fear! All because evil exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Can anyone explain? why did God create evil? Is He not a good God? Is He not love? If you can explain this,then you are on strong meat. You have been weaned from the breast. jesse I never saw it as God "creating" Evil but rather it's something kinda' similar to the Eastern Philosophy of Yin/Yang. That the one thing exist because of the other. In other words, Evil is the term that we use to explain whatever is apart from God. God is Holy and Just and Perfect in all ways, and full of Glory... things that humans can barely understand; we call those things "Good" Anything outside of that is what we call "Evil". Edited September 26, 2014 by Teditis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow Posted September 26, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 22 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 26, 2014 Evil teaches us new things, incredible things about God and glorifies Him!! If you take nothing else from Paul's writing in Romans 1, it should be this: there is absolutely nothing in what you wrote, cited above, that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Posted September 27, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,727 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 2,305 Days Won: 5 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2014 Evil teaches us new things, incredible things about God and glorifies Him!! If you take nothing else from Paul's writing in Romans 1, it should be this: there is absolutely nothing in what you wrote, cited above, that is true. Stormcrow Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. What do you make of this verse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rant Posted September 27, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2014 God as a creator of all living things never created evil . But gave choice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 27, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,234 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,956 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2014 Evil teaches us new things, incredible things about God and glorifies Him!! If you take nothing else from Paul's writing in Romans 1, it should be this: there is absolutely nothing in what you wrote, cited above, that is true. Stormcrow Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. What do you make of this verse. that word that is translated Evil in other translations is calamity or Chaos and not evil.... The word it comes from can be used for either. However the context of the sentence I would say that calamity/chaos would be more proper. it's speaking of opposites..... light/dark... peace/calamity... it just suites the sentence structure better. evil just doesn't seem to be the opposite of peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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