Is that for me to eat

[OakWood]

 

It does mean eating it. Read the context - or are you saying that if you see a person strangled that you should keep well clear of them?

 

Oakwood,

 

This is the way I am reading it.

 

Acts 15:20   But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, .....and.... from blood.

Acts 15:29   That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood,..... and..... from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

 

We know things strangled contain the blood, but like I mentioned in my previous reply, there are more uses for blood than just eating an animal that has not been killed & drained properly.

I'm trying to look at all those scriptures and compare why "eating blood" wasn't specifically mentioned in the new testament to the gentiles, who never new the old law in detail,  and why it was just generalised?

In the OT it is clear and specific that it is not to be eaten, but we are in a different era now, and blood is a big industry.

 

And those celebs are drinking human blood.  Where do they get it from is the question.

 

 

I can see your point about drinking blood and I do agree that there is something sinister and ritualistic about doing so.

Blood is the life force and drinking something or somebody elses life force does have a devilish ring to it.

 

I just personally believe that it doesn't apply to transfusions because you are taking a life force that was offered to you, for medical reasons. Also, nobody has been sacrificed - the donor still has his own life force and is still alive.

It's like saying that stealing money is wrong, but taking money that was willingly offered to you in order to help you, is not wrong. If somebody offers you some of their blood, not for ritual, nor for fun nor recreation, but to save your life - then I can't see what is wrong with that.

[Sevenseas]

There is always a problem when someone ADDS to what scripture says or SUBTRACTS from what it says

 

Neither is a good thing.

 

 

Sevenseas

 

I am not a JW.  I have already stated that.  I have never studied with them.  In fact I have only ever read the scriptures for myself, and able to make my own mind up.

If I were a new christian, I would only like to hear the truth, no matter what.

That's what the bible is about, the truth. 

If God doesn't like something, I would want to know what it was, and why, and know everything else he hates, so I don't do it in ignorance.

But that's just me.

If you believe that taking blood is not a sin,

then that's fine

 

 

This thread is about dietary laws of the OT

 

Yet, you have managed to take it somewhere else entirely that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the op

 

You have basically done the same thing with scripture

 

If God does not like something, then you don't want to do it, but that's just you?

 

So does that mean if we do not agree with your personal opinion, we don't care if God likes something or not?

 

See, that always becomes the problem when people voice their opinion.  It's ok to say you have an opinion or you don't think something is right for you personally,

but when people stretch that to include everyone else, they are basically speaking for God

 

So, I ask myself, do I want to do that, or do I want to simply and actually stick to what is actually the truth and not apply my own interpretations?

 

 

 

Sevenseas

 

This is a touchy subject, and it can bring out anger in some.  You may of gone through it, or know of someone so I understand,

I am not dictating to anyone, it's a personal choice.

And yes, I don't mind doctors, hospitals, medications etc,

but I don't like the blood thing.  Blood transfusions.  That is my point.

here's why;

 

 

It is unfortunate that you have decided to make this personal by attempting to create anger by saying I am angry.  That, is false and I believe you know that.

 

I'm not sure what you may think you understand about me, but I would venture to guess that would be mostly nothing.

 

The topic is not me nor is it even blood transfusions and it certainly is not 'celebs' drinking blood as you introduced.

 

You have consistently mentionned your dislike for all things blood and I think that is now understood.

 

So, hoping you understand this:  your observations are your own.  They are opinion only with regard to blood transfusions as you have stretched the meaning

of certain verses of scripture beyond their intent.

 

I am not at all sure why on earth you would bring up celebrities drinking blood except for the 'shock' factor.  I'm not shocked, but I am weary of the rabbit trails.

[justfaith]

 

 

Are you saying that we can eat pagan food and it will not defile us ? please explain this verse thanks 

 

1 Corinthians 10:20-22King James Version (KJV)

20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

 

this is not speaking of any particular kind of food.....   could be kosher or not, it's speaking of participating in a pagan ritual that would in reality introduce Demonic beings and powers to the forefront of your life.....   and that's not a good thing, even if you are a born again Christian.

 

therefore by your answer i agree it is not stating what food but the point is you can be defiled by what goes in 

[shinethelight14]

 

does the law of clean and unclean meats apply for Christians today why or why not ?

 

As matter fact, clean and uclean meats applies for christians today. Because Gods commandments can not change. If Yeshua declares declares it is ok to eat unclean meats..then he would be a false prophet according to Torah

[shinethelight14]

 

 

does the law of clean and unclean meats apply for Christians today why or why not ?

 

No, they do not apply to Christians.   Those commandments were given to the nation of Israel.  They were never repeated as a commandment to the Church.   They are relevant to us for the purpose of theological insight/lessons, but they are not given as commandment for us to observe in the New Testament economy.

 

Then your saying homosexuality is ok....

[shinethelight14]

Christians relate to God under a different covenant than the Covenant between God and the nation of Israel (i.e. the Mosaic Law). Christians are therefore not obligated to the precepts contained within that covenant (including those pertaining to diet). Christians relate to God under a new and "better" covenant (see Hebrews chapter 8).

Are you telling me homosexuality and incest is ok?

[Sevenseas]

 

 

does the law of clean and unclean meats apply for Christians today why or why not ?

 

As matter fact, clean and uclean meats applies for christians today. Because Gods commandments can not change. If Yeshua declares declares it is ok to eat unclean meats..then he would be a false prophet according to Torah

 

 

 

nope.  not so

[Sevenseas]

 

 

 

does the law of clean and unclean meats apply for Christians today why or why not ?

 

No, they do not apply to Christians.   Those commandments were given to the nation of Israel.  They were never repeated as a commandment to the Church.   They are relevant to us for the purpose of theological insight/lessons, but they are not given as commandment for us to observe in the New Testament economy.

 

Then your saying homosexuality is ok....

 

 

no he isn't.  that's just you trying to draw an illogical conclusion as though he actually said such a thing.  This has been done by millions before you on both Christian and non-Christians forums and talk sites all over terra firma and perhaps in the deep blue sea as well

[Sevenseas]

 

Christians relate to God under a different covenant than the Covenant between God and the nation of Israel (i.e. the Mosaic Law). Christians are therefore not obligated to the precepts contained within that covenant (including those pertaining to diet). Christians relate to God under a new and "better" covenant (see Hebrews chapter 8).

Are you telling me homosexuality and incest is ok?

 

 

 

Was that your question.....I didn't see that as a question....hmmmmm

[justfaith]

 

 

 

does the law of clean and unclean meats apply for Christians today why or why not ?

 

As matter fact, clean and uclean meats applies for christians today. Because Gods commandments can not change. If Yeshua declares declares it is ok to eat unclean meats..then he would be a false prophet according to Torah

 

 

 

nope.  not s

Could you expain this ? Is it for Israel alone or not ?

Deuteronomy 29

 

 

1 These are the words of the covenant, which the Lord commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.

9 Keep therefore the words of this covenant, and do them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.

 

10 Ye stand this day all of you before the Lord your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, with all the men of Israel,

 

11 Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that is in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water:

 

12 That thou shouldest enter into covenant with the Lord thy God, and into his oath, which the Lord thy God maketh with thee this day:

 

13 That he may establish thee to day for a people unto himself, and that he may be unto thee a God, as he hath said unto thee, and as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

 

14 Neither with you only do I make this covenant and this oath;

 

15 But with him that standeth here with us this day before the Lord our God, and also with him that is not here with us this day:

Edited September 8, 2014 by justfaith