Wheel within the Wheel

[justfaith]

to me he is describing a tank.

[Leonard]

They are QUITE LITERAL!

 

Edited October 8, 2014 by ncn
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[Hall7]

Sounds like some kind of aircraft to me.

[Giantbear7]

Cherubim and Seraphim are two different beings.

Yes, the seraphim have six wings, and the cherubim have four wings. The description of Ezekiel 1 seems to be the same as in Ezekiel 10 which are called cherubim.

Ezekiel 10:14 And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.Ezekiel 10:15 And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I saw by the river of Chebar.Ezekiel 10:16 And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them: and when the cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the same wheels also turned not from beside them.Ezekiel 10:17 When they stood, these stood; and when they were lifted up, these lifted up themselves also: for the spirit of the living creature was in them.Ezekiel 10:18 Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubims.

Ezekiel 1:6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

Ezekiel 1:7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

Ezekiel 1:8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

Ezekiel 1:9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

Ezekiel 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Ezekiel 1:11 Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

Man: intelligence

Lion: majestic

Bull: strength

Eagle: sovereignty above all

Edited October 3, 2014 by Giantbear7

[justfaith]

Cherubim and Seraphim are two different beings.

Why was God throne blue ?

[justfaith]

They are QUITE LITERAL!

 

Why is God throne blue ? what does the glass over His head represents ?

Edited October 8, 2014 by ncn

[Sister]

Does the devil look like these creatures ?

 

 

 

 

Hi Justfaith

 

Lucifer was a cherub, a covering angel.  I don't know what he would look like now since kicked out of heaven, I imagine the same, but what's inside him has turned ugly....and these scriptures show us how highly he was ranked before he fell.

 

 

 Ezekiel 28:14   Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set theeso: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 

  Ezekiel 28:16   By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 

 

If Lucifer was a covering angel, and the cherubs are part of God' throne, then it explains why Lucifer was created full of wisdom.  He was  there with God and went everywhere with him. Now he is the most detestable creature in God's eyes.  He used all that wisdom to turn men away from God.

[goldust59]

A slightly different view-  I see the wheel within a wheel to be describing the Mazzaroth (todays word would be Zodiac).  The four creatures being (living) constellations Leo, Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius. - all 12 of these 'signs/constellations are basic to the lunar calendar (Gods calendar vs pagan Solar) and also representative of the twelve tribes of Israel. These also tell the fascinating story of the Gospel in the stars.

I agree this is the Throne of God.

I think you are right. Did some study on this a while back and it is a fascinating topic.

[justfaith]

Cherubim and Seraphim are two different beings.

Who is greater the cherubims or the seraphims ?

[Sister]

 

Justfaith

 

It's hard for us to picture, but heaven is a spiritual place and everything in heaven consists of the spiritual and not made of the material as we have in our world.

Even God's throne is not made of a physical material, but is made out of spiritual material.

Everything is spirit in God's world, which is in the heavenly realm..

 

Ezekiels vision of God sitting on his throne shows us that the throne sits on a chariot, and the wheels are made up of spirit - cheribums.  These four go whereever the spirit of God goes.  These spiritual creatures travel everywhere with God.  I don't think you can get much closer than that when it comes to the angels, being part of the throne.

 

The four beasts in Revelations have similar descriptions, only they have 6 wings, and one face each with eyes all around.  These four are around the throne, and not part of the throne.  These four beasts are seraphims.  

 

 Isaiah 6:2   Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 

 

I'm not sure here if it's their own face and feet they are covering, or God's?

 

I think if we go to all the other scriptures scattered throughout concerning these different type of angels, we will get a much clearer picture.

Which is something that I look forward to doing within the next few days,because it gives us such an amazing glimpse.