PetriFB Posted December 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 175 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 263 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/02/1964 Share Posted December 5, 2014 At first, I emphasize that my article is not homophobic and hate speech, but viewpoint considering harmful and problematic effects that legalizing of the gay marriages causes. I live in Finland and I study this subject from the national perspective and also world wide. My article deals with matters that are very often overlooked or has not observed. http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/gaymarriageharmfuleffects.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusSavedMe Posted December 5, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 115 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 5, 2014 Many children are raised solely by a man or a woman nowadays with the divorce rate being 50% in the US so how does this fit into your immorality model? Men and woman both show emotions. A homosexual couple of men can validate any child's feelings and raise them in a healthy way. You loosely throw around the word immorality when there is no proof that homosexuality is immoral. Homosexuality has been going on since the beginning of time and they have rights to families, too. There is no impirical evidence of maternal love being needed by children. Love in itself can come from a man or a woman in the raising of children. I find your article very judgemental and lacking in evidence of a substantial nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 You loosely throw around the word immorality when there is no proof that homosexuality is immoral. God condemns the homosexual lifestyle as immoral several places in the Bible. That our primary source for declaring that it is immoral. Homosexuality has been going on since the beginning of time and they have rights to families, too. No, they don't. No one does. Getting married and raising a family isn't a right. The person you marry is not required to marry you. You have no "right" to be married. Marriage is a consensual covenant made by two people of their own, mutual free will. Not even heterosexuals have a "right" to be married. There is no impirical evidence of maternal love being needed by children. http://familyfacts.org/briefs/6/benefits-of-family-for-children-and-adults http://billmuehlenberg.com/2010/10/18/why-children-need-a-mother-and-a-father/ http://www.tfpstudentaction.org/politically-incorrect/homosexuality/10-reasons-why-homosexual-marriage-is-harmful-and-must-be-opposed.html Love in itself can come from a man or a woman in the raising of children. The problem with your point of view is that it lacks a fundamental understanding of the role of fathers and mothers in a child's life. Women and men are hardwired differently when it comes to certain types of emotional makeup and both of these are essential to a child's development. Children need the nurture, security that comes from a mother, but they also need discipline, direction and protection that comes from a father. Two men or two women cannot provide for a child what a man and woman in a healthy marriage can provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 5, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,358 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,546 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 5, 2014 The loss of common sense and decency is the result of immoralitywithin the cultures and Sodom lies at our door... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted December 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 5, 2014 Many children are raised solely by a man or a woman nowadays with the divorce rate being 50% in the US so how does this fit into your immorality model? Men and woman both show emotions. A homosexual couple of men can validate any child's feelings and raise them in a healthy way. You loosely throw around the word immorality when there is no proof that homosexuality is immoral. Homosexuality has been going on since the beginning of time and they have rights to families, too. There is no impirical evidence of maternal love being needed by children. Love in itself can come from a man or a woman in the raising of children. I find your article very judgemental and lacking in evidence of a substantial nature. That may be the case, but that is because society as a whole has thrown morals out the window. Using that arguement, we could logically assume that if enough people do something, then it must be ok. Actually homosexuality has not been going on since the beginning of time. God did not create two males or two females and tell them to reproduce. The very fact that you need both a male and a female to create a new human being, is evidence of a pattern that fails to allow for two of the same sex to be succesful in continuing the human race. If you would like a world of clones or test tube babies or babies raised in a laboratory being fed by robots, then that might just be where things are going if homosexuals have their way because they certainly cannot procreate. Read Romans chapter one if you would like to educate yourself on what the Bible really says about homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted December 5, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I'm sorry maybe it's just me. I don't think homosexuals have any rights as a married couple. One reason is God sees marriage for a man and a women. A mother and a father has a different role in a child's life. I cannot picture two married gay men teaching a daughter how to apply make up, or teaching a young girl about the facts of life, that a young girl needs to know at a certain age. That is something that a mother can teach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diatheosis Posted December 6, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 370 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 91 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 6, 2014 Gay marriage was voted for in the parliament one week ago, and will quite surely proceed next year to be legalized in Finland. The sad but not unexpected thing was the arch-bishop of the Lutheran church welcomed this, being the main cause for 13000 to resign themselves from the church for over one weekend. That's quite high number being in Finland. As I have long been saying, that is only one step forward and more is to follow. I have told many polygamy will be the next, since like homosexual "marriages" it can also be defended as a human right. I've seen many signs on this in the media, like articles about polyamoric relationships with no critic about it at all. Now they proceeded and presented a show on tv about a Finnish "family" of one man and two women. The success Mormons have had with this thing in the states predicts expansion of the movement, considering the muslim immigration in Europe we can see how pieces start falling into place. They quite surely will soon start raising their voice for polygamy, and the European governments bow their heads once again. Besides, isn't it only exciting to go further that path once you have started the journey? If only you knew the destination.. Once the very basic unit, family, that was made sacred by God has been corrupted in its principle, the Antichrist has paved the way for further exploitation of humanity. And those poor souls who lack the backbone to stand up for what God has instructed us with,will cheer the beast on to the throne. Sometimes it would be so wonderful to be wrong, but I doubt the Word of God would fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 6, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 6, 2014 Many children are raised solely by a man or a woman nowadays with the divorce rate being 50% in the US so how does this fit into your immorality model? Men and woman both show emotions. A homosexual couple of men can validate any child's feelings and raise them in a healthy way. You loosely throw around the word immorality when there is no proof that homosexuality is immoral. Homosexuality has been going on since the beginning of time and they have rights to families, too. There is no impirical evidence of maternal love being needed by children. Love in itself can come from a man or a woman in the raising of children. I find your article very judgemental and lacking in evidence of a substantial nature.I don't really know how to voice how much I disagree with this post. All my life I have been surrounded with homosexual and bisexual members of my family and every one of them had a miserable life, which is shown in their children, who ended up confused and often spiritually and mentally disturbed. That is over 60 years of experience, from my parents, to my sisters, to my children, and all those who follow the same ideals that I have met.Ruth, you could not be further from the truth in my world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I don't see it as a problem that's any larger than any other pervasive sin. Look at how much just the sin of lying has reeked havoc on our society? People sin... we adjust, there's nothing new under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 6, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 6, 2014 I don't see it as a problem that's any larger than any other pervasive sin.Look at how much just the sin of lying has reeked havoc on our society? People sin... we adjust, there's nothing new under the sun.Adjust to sin? I am not sure I understand what you mean by this. Instead of assuming to know what I think you mean, can you explain in your own words how we are to adjust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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