Burning_Ember Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 BE, the stuff that Jade posted do not contradict or refute anything that was contained in the OP. Kayla Mueller, like most Liberals was a terrorist enabler. She didn't see herself that way, but like most Liberals she had believed the typical lies that the liberal media puts about Israel, Islam and the Arab narrative about Israel's existence. Kayla Mueller was nothing but the typical naïve ignorant Liberal. You don't like what conservatives say because frankly, it probably contains more truth than you have the ability to face up to. Schlussel is right about Kayla. I would not use the expletives she used, but Debbie Schlussel is correct in her assessment of not only Kayla, but all of those who with her and the ISM promoted their own brand of hatred and racism. In fact, Schlussel says thing about those who are pro-Palestinian that I have been saying for years on this board. The ISM is not a benign humanitarian organization. It is a pro-terror, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic organization meant to frustrate Israel and stand in solidarity with Palestinian terrorists. Kayla promoted hate and racism and did it by pretending to care about the Palestinians. Groups like the ISM should be exposed for their hypocritical backdoor racism and promotion of hate and violence in the name of "human rights." Pro-Palestinianism is just another face of hate. No one should gloat in her death, but she does not deserve to be honored as a humanitarian. Mueller was decidedly pro-terror and anti-Semitic. You failed to produce any statements by her where she advocated for the use of violence for political ends, or expressed racist sentiments against Israelis, or Jewish people. On the contrary, most of what she talked about, as far as I can tell... Is finding the good in others, showing compassion, raising money for syrian refugees, etc. If you wish to speak with such disrespect and rudeness regarding an American killed by a terrorist organization, and claim to know exactly what she thinks and why after reading a few smear pieces by conservative media outlets, that's up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 BE, when a person joins themselves to a hate group like the ISM which supports violent Islamic terrorism, by their actions, they are stating, "I support the murder of Jews." When a liberal is pro-Palestinian, they are stating, "I hate Jews and I support the murder of Israeli Jews." Support of the Palestinian cause is a tacit support of violence and terrorism because terrorism is Palestinian policy. So when Kayla joined the ISM, it was tantamount to saying "Kill the Jews" What she supported was Islamic extremism in the name of a pseudo-humanitarianism. If she were a real humanitarian, she would not have joined the ISM which is decidedly a hate group. What naïve, gullible liberals don't understand is that Muslims exploit humanitarianism in order to bankroll terrorism. People give money to these "charities" and the money is funneled to the terrorists. The money that these false humanitarians like Kayla Mueller raise ends up feeding, arming, sheltering and training Islamic terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah and ISIS. Her compassion was for the terrorists, she found good in the terrorists, and sought to raise money for the terrorists while at the same time living in hatred for Jews and for Israel. In the end, se was just another liberal anti-Semite. She doesn't deserve any accolades or "respect." She was murdered by the people she worked to help. What a waste. A pointless wasted life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 Nasty stuff Shiloh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Just more truth than you can ever face up to amor. And yes, anti-Semitism is nasty, ugly and satanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 Resistance I'd not antisemitism, though. Neither is campaigning for a juster world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Labeling Palestinian terrorism as "resistance" is anti-Semitic. The Palestinian terrorists are cowards who not only murder innocent Jewish women and children but they do so by using their own women and children as human shields to facilitate their acts of murder. There is no resistance as Israel has never stood in the way of Palestinian self-determination. It has always been the Arab Muslim world that has rejected Palestinian statehood. The pro-Palestinian movement is a movement that supports the stated Palestinian aspiration to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews. The Palestiians when given a vote and choice always choose the annihilation of Israel and elect a representative government that runs on a platform taken straight from the pages of Mein Kampf. Those who support the Palestinian cause of Israel's destruction support anti-Semitism, pure and simple. Kayla Mueller participated in that agenda to some degree and any loss of Jewish life as a result of her actions of enabling Palestinian terrorism is something she was/is accountable for. There is no "justice" in what she wanted. She is not a hero, or saint or a humanitarian. She was just radical, misguided Liberal who was brainwashed into accepting the typical Liberal lies about Israel and the middle east in general and that led directly to her death. The Palestinian cause is not about a more just world. It is about world, minus Israel. It is about injustice, hate and the extermination of the Jews and they make no secret about that. Liberals simply ignore what the Palestinians say openly. The Palestinian cause is rooted in the ideology of hatred (Islam) and terrorism is their method of choice. They are a barbaric and backwards people and they have shown why they do not deserve a state and why they could not run state if they had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,858 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 Shiloh, you seem to have the opinion that Israel can do no wrong.... just because some people might not approve of some of the things they do it isn't antisemitism... That's the kind of thinking Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson use to claim racism.... the both of them think everything people of color do is justified. When has Israel ever done Gods will for three generations in a row? Being Gods chosen people does not make them right, and all throughout history they have been wrong some if not most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I never said that Israel can do no wrong. But Israel isn't calling for the destruction of the Palestinians. Israel isn't sending out suicide bombers to murder little children in playgrounds and Israel isn't murdering innocent Israelis in supermarkets and grocery stores. Israel has made mistakes, but those mistakes would never have been made in the first place were they not be subjected to day and night nonstop terrorism and calls for their destruction. Israel's mistakes are not the product of an agenda to persecute or disenfranchise or abuse the Palestinians. Israel's mistakes are made in a sincere attempt to defend themselves against those who seek their annihilation and teach their children that Jews are descended from apes and pigs and that killing Jews isn't murder since Jews are not actually human. This is not about Jews being God's chosen people. Israel has done more for the Palestinians than any other nation on earth. They feed them, they build them houses and schools and hospitals, they protect Muslim holy sites (while Muslims desecrate Jewish holy sites), they give them equal access to Israel's judiciary, they give the free socialized medicine and healthcare, they give them welfare, and they even provide jobs for those willing to work. Israel has built modern sewage treatment in backwater Palestinian towns that used to have trenches in the middle of the street as their "sewer." What has Israel gotten in return? They get their wives and children shredded on city busses with pipe bombs planted by Palestinian terrorists. Israel gets repaid by Imams screaming from mosques sitting on Israeli soil, calling for Israel's destruction. Israelis are machine gunned down at weddings, in supermarkets, play grounds, restaurants. Israelis are blown up by suicide bombers and they are ambushed on back roads and murdered. Israel has given the Palestinians freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and other freedoms they would NEVER have in a Muslim country and all Israel ever gets in return is more dead Jews on their own streets. This is not a conflict between two morally equivalent entities. The Palestinians are an evil, bloodthirsty people who call regularly for Israel's annihilation. Israel doesn't deserve that after all they have endeavored to do. Comparing the morality of the Palestinians to that of the Israelis, is like comparing the arsonist with the firefighter. Israel did not make the Palestinians refuguees and it is unfair to lay the blame for this conflict on Israel's doorstep and it is equally unfair for the world to demand that Israel be responsible for ending a refugee crisis they did not create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's not guilt by association. I didn't say she directly supported blowing anyone up, per se. She didn't engage in that activity but she gave moral support to the terrorists, She might not have engaged in violent resistance, but neither did she oppose it and her entire moral support was behind the terrorists. So it was an indirect support of terrorist activity by the Palestinians and probably by ISIS, as well. In this post you accept that thePalestinians are involved in resistance. As to your second point supporting the. Rights ofPalestinians in the occupied territories and being involved in ISM in no way links you with supporting ISIS. It's just a way of denigrating someone you disagree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted February 14, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Unedifying, and at times bordering on hate speech (no matter who one may or may not support). Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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