Once Saved always Saved?

[Giaour]

I believe that you can sin and still be saved.

I look at David as an example of this.

He repeatedly sinned and repeatedly repented but was still saved according to God.

I think we need to look at the word "practice".

Does anyone have the original text of that translation?

[Giaour]

Who is the expert on original text translation?

I would like to know about the word "practice"

[kjw47]

Who is the expert on original text translation?

I would like to know about the word "practice"

Hi Friend, Sometimes it is called willfull= meaning that one knows it is sin and yet does it anyways, says i am sorry, then does it again, then says i am sorry, then does it again, etc-- truly this one is not sorry to God. How can one put on the new and then look back and do, in reality this one has not put on the new. they are likened to Lots wife. By the judgement of God Lot lived, His wife died. She looked back. She didnt even have the opportunity to commit a sin, but in her heart it was her true desire. God the only reader of hearts, the only one who has the book of life, no man has seen the names written in this book, no man can tell another that he is saved because he cannot read hearts.

[Giaour]

Thanks for the response but it really didn't answer my question.

What word is "practice" translated from?

[kjw47]

Hi Friend, alls it takes is listening to Gods word over men.

I totally agree. That's why I'm OSAS. And you never did answer my question. But I'll move on.

Hi Friend, no one knows it doesnt say if they were saved. but this is obvious truth, These did powerful works in Jesus name ( do any of us do powerful works in Jesus name? ) Obviously if someone is doing powerful works in Jesus name, they think they love Jesus very much, in their hearts, minds, and souls, but they practiced sin, Jesus called them workers of iniquities= practiced sin( 1 John 3:4 ) and he confessed that he NEVER knew them, These were told ( had their ears tickled ) you are saved. But the opposite is truth. In Noahs day there were 8 children of God alive out of all of mankind. 99% minimum were the children of the devil, God compared these days with Noahs day.And God said-- The road is narrow, few will find it. one way to be positive is to make sure of all things. satans #1 way to mislead mankind has always been by transforming into an angel of light by posing as god in false religions.

Edited June 16, 2006 by kjw47

[Giaour]

Thank you Butero, that's exactly whay I was looking for

[Giaour]

So instead of "practice" sin, it could be translated to one who "covets" sin or "extorts" sins.

So it doesn't necessarily mean one that commits a sin over and over but rather one who loves their sin.

[kjw47]

So instead of "practice" sin, it could be translated to one who "covets" sin or "extorts" sins.

So it doesn't necessarily mean one that commits a sin over and over but rather one who loves their sin.

Hi, Obviously if one keeps on doing a sin he doesnt do it because he hates doing it, to God anyways. There is a list at 1 corinthians 6: 9-11-- Drunkards ( probably drugs to since Paul said the word Pharmacia was the way the demons could enter a human ) adulterers, men who lie with men ( homosexuality ) fornicators( men who have sex with a woman out of the marriage arrangement) revelers, idolotors, thieves,greedy persons, extortioners,--- see at 9 it says WILL NOT ENTER GODS KINGDOM ( this is where eternal life is ) and in 11 it says-- this is what some of you were ( past tense ). This is Gods reality. God said those words through his inspired writer.

[Giaour]

Romans 7

14. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15. For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

[Giaour]

I'm thinking that there is a difference between "practicing" sin and "coveting" sin.

"Practicing" seems to mean that they do it over and over but "coveting seems to mean they love doing it.

Do you see where I'm making a difference?

I think a person can hate practicing a sin but still do it.