An open letter to pastors about Mothersday

[Qnts2]

From wiki on Mothers day.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day

 

The celebration of Mother's Day began in the United States in the early 20th century; it is not related to the many celebrations of mothers and motherhood that have occurred throughout the world over thousands of years, such as the Greek cult to Cybele, the Roman festival of Hilaria, or the Christian Mothering Sunday celebration (originally a celebration of the mother church, not motherhood).

 

Aha. I knew it. Mothers day is not a Christian holiday!!!!

 

Cybelle: Cybele (/ˈsɪbɨliː/; Phrygian: Matar Kubileya/Kubeleya "Kubeleyan Mother", perhaps "Mountain Mother"; Turkish Kibele; Lydian Kuvava; Greek: Κυβέλη Kybele, Κυβήβη Kybebe, Κύβελις Kybelis) was an originally Anatolian mother goddess;

 

Pagan.

 

The Hilaria (Greek: ἱλάρια; Latin: hilaris, "cheerful") were ancient Roman religious festivals celebrated on the vernal equinox to honor Cybele.

 

See, I have just proven that Mothers day has pagan origins. I knew it!!!!!!  

[missmuffet]

How about those who have had an abusive mother?Mother's Day can be an unhappy one for those as well.

[The_Patriot21]

Honoring mothers by having them stand or giving them roses isn't tearing anyone down, that's a load of crock. What tears them apart is already present in those women, regardless of what the church has done, and the church should be trying to minister to them for that issue, not cowtow to their demands.

 

Yes, it is tearing others down. It is pointing out the lack of the other group.

 

Is honoring the rich, tearing down the poor? It is as it points out their lack.

 

It is. Because it is saying that one group has something worth honor, while the others have nothing worth honoring. Most families desire children. Not all have them, and society treats the have nots as less. The church, by honoring mothers and giving them flowers in honor, are saying women without children are not worthy of honor.  That is not the place or the attitude of any Godly church.  A church is to build up believers. All believers. Not just a select group with no care about the others.

Mothers is not a select group and its something we all have. Giving them one day is not tearing anyone down and its selfish to deny them one day just because someone else isn't a mother. Its selfishness like that that tears a church down. If they're so focused on their misery to be happy for those that do have kids, then the church is either failing to properly minister to them or their to focused on themselves to care, and not honoring mother's won't fix either problem. Its akin to spitting in mothers faces, hey mom I know you work hard but I'm not going to admit it because I might offend someone. Please, put a helmet on.

[Guest shiloh357]

HI Angels,

 

A pastor cannot rearrange how a church does things for one person or even one group of people, especially if it not going against Scripture.   As a pastor, he cannot please everyone all of the time and so it is impossible for a pastor to meet every need, serve every whim  and respond to every issue a person has.

 

Having a day to honor Mother's at Church is not being insensitive to anyone who is not a mother.   The OP has some emotional baggage that she has not worked through and needs some pastoral counseling.  

 

The problem is not with the pastor.  The problem is with her and her unresolved issues.   Being sensitive doesn't mean that everyone has to rearrange their lives or their church services to please one person.

[Qnts2]

 

 

Honoring mothers by having them stand or giving them roses isn't tearing anyone down, that's a load of crock. What tears them apart is already present in those women, regardless of what the church has done, and the church should be trying to minister to them for that issue, not cowtow to their demands.

 

Yes, it is tearing others down. It is pointing out the lack of the other group.

 

Is honoring the rich, tearing down the poor? It is as it points out their lack.

 

It is. Because it is saying that one group has something worth honor, while the others have nothing worth honoring. Most families desire children. Not all have them, and society treats the have nots as less. The church, by honoring mothers and giving them flowers in honor, are saying women without children are not worthy of honor.  That is not the place or the attitude of any Godly church.  A church is to build up believers. All believers. Not just a select group with no care about the others.

Mothers is not a select group and its something we all have. Giving them one day is not tearing anyone down and its selfish to deny them one day just because someone else isn't a mother. Its selfishness like that that tears a church down. If they're so focused on their misery to be happy for those that do have kids, then the church is either failing to properly minister to them or their to focused on themselves to care, and not honoring mother's won't fix either problem. Its akin to spitting in mothers faces, hey mom I know you work hard but I'm not going to admit it because I might offend someone. Please, put a helmet on.

 

 

I never said to deny your mother a special day. It doesn't belong in the church.

[missmuffet]

Honoring mothers by having them stand or giving them roses isn't tearing anyone down, that's a load of crock. What tears them apart is already present in those women, regardless of what the church has done, and the church should be trying to minister to them for that issue, not cowtow to their demands.

I agree.I think it is nice to have moms stand at Church and give them a rose.They used to do that at the Church I used to attend.

[missmuffet]

HI Angels,

 

A pastor cannot rearrange how a church does things for one person or even one group of people, especially if it not going against Scripture.   As a pastor, he cannot please everyone all of the time and so it is impossible for a pastor to meet every need, serve every whim  and respond to every issue a person has.

 

Having a day to honor Mother's at Church is not being insensitive to anyone who is not a mother.   The OP has some emotional baggage that she has not worked through and needs some pastoral counseling.  

 

The problem is not with the pastor.  The problem is with her and her unresolved issues.   Being sensitive doesn't mean that everyone has to rearrange their lives or their church services to please one person.

I agree shiloh.There are some unresolved issues.

[Guest shiloh357]

You are wrong, Qnts.    Mother's Day, if it belong anywhere, it belongs in the Church.

[Qnts2]

HI Angels,

 

A pastor cannot rearrange how a church does things for one person or even one group of people, especially if it not going against Scripture.   As a pastor, he cannot please everyone all of the time and so it is impossible for a pastor to meet every need, serve every whim  and respond to every issue a person has.

 

Having a day to honor Mother's at Church is not being insensitive to anyone who is not a mother.   The OP has some emotional baggage that she has not worked through and needs some pastoral counseling.  

 

The problem is not with the pastor.  The problem is with her and her unresolved issues.   Being sensitive doesn't mean that everyone has to rearrange their lives or their church services to please one person.

 

Actually, the church is being rearranged to celebrate a day which is not biblical, hurts not just one person but probably several.

 

Having a day to honor Mothers is not a Christian day, and is being insensitive to those who can not have children, those who have had a child die, those who have lost a mother, those who are single etc etc etc.

 

For you to judge whether someone has emotional baggage is stepping over the line. You are blaming a hurt person for being hurt. It is not the persons fault. They are not guilty of a sin. They are innocent and the church should not be in the business of hurting an innocent hurt person for being hurt.   

 

There is absolutely no biblical reason to celebrate a secular holiday, and there is a solid biblical reason to not hurt believers in a church.  If you are to refrain from doing what causes a brother to stumble, how much more are you to refrain from a secular holiday which gives honor to a group while hurting another group.

 

Scripture says a child should honor their parent. That is done within a family, at home.   

[Qnts2]

You are wrong, Qnts.    Mother's Day, if it belong anywhere, it belongs in the Church.

 

Show scripture which says this secular holiday should be celebrated in a church?