Ezra Posted May 10, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 10, 2015 God is light metaphorically, but not literally. He is not physical light. So you both are denying the truth and reality of Rev 21:23? That does not change the truth of God's Word. Simply because humans cannot fully comprehend God does not mean that God is not Light. His Word tells us clearly and plainly that "GOD IS LIGHT" -- literally, physically, and spiritually (an incomprehensibly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut- Posted May 10, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,673 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 7,358 Days Won: 67 Joined: 04/22/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted May 10, 2015 God created the light, so what you have here is a contradiction. For one to claim God is light physically, then that is claiming that God was created. How exactly does the Creator create Himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted May 10, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted May 10, 2015 When it says there will be no need of the sun or moon I believe it. Does God need the sun to produce light? No. He allows the sun and moon to give light. When God says then it will be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 10, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 10, 2015 God created the light, so what you have here is a contradiction. For one to claim God is light physically, then that is claiming that God was created. How exactly does the Creator create Himself? God is uncaused and uncreated- He simply exists.From nothing,nothing comes.God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut- Posted May 10, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,673 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 7,358 Days Won: 67 Joined: 04/22/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted May 10, 2015 God created the light, so what you have here is a contradiction. For one to claim God is light physically, then that is claiming that God was created. How exactly does the Creator create Himself? God is uncaused and uncreated- He simply exists.From nothing,nothing comes.God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to exist. I agree, and because God said "let there be light", and there was light, is a pretty clear indicator that God is not physical light. He didn't create Himself, or speak Himself into existence, that is the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Pretty And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 1:3-5 Much And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 22:5 I Think The Son radiates God's own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven. Hebrews 1:3 (NLT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted May 25, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 25, 2015 God created the light, so what you have here is a contradiction. For one to claim God is light physically, then that is claiming that God was created. How exactly does the Creator create Himself? God is uncaused and uncreated- He simply exists.From nothing,nothing comes.God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to exist. Therefore He is UNCREATED LIGHT. Why is this so hard to believe? The Bible tells us that GOD IS LIGHT and CHRIST IS LIGHT. Just believe it. And study the Transfiguration of Christ for proof that He is Uncreated Light -- brighter than a million suns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 When John said that God is light, he was speaking in metaphorical terms. The context of that statement had to do with moral purity. John's point was not that God is physical light. What he was saying is that God is pure and sinless and there is no darkness, i.e. no sin, no evil no moral shortcomings in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted May 25, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted May 25, 2015 On 5/11/2015 at 10:19 PM, FresnoJoe said: Pretty And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 1:3-5 Much And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 22:5 I Think The Son radiates God's own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven. Hebrews 1:3 (NLT) ~ Yes~! And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 22:5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodion_Raskolnikov_ Posted May 26, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 141 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 145 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/05/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/02/1974 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) I'm going to be honest and tell you I'm responding without having read the other responses (as I should have). That being said... Light is made of some kind of particles that we clearly don't understand, yet. It behaves in different ways, at different times. Sometimes it bahaves in two (seemingly paradoxical) ways at the same time. But, particle it remains. We don't understand exactly what light is, but we do know it is subject to physical limitations. For example: light has a quantifiable speed. Also, light is subject to gravity. Both of these facts mean that light particles (no matter how small, or undefinable) are physical and part of our created universe, not a manifestation of the Creator. Light is no more of a manifestation of God than any other of His physical creations. Light is wonderful and beautiful. Light is evidence of the worthiness and power of our Lord, just like all of His other creations (not the least of which is us ). Light isn't Him. Edited May 26, 2015 by Rodion_Raskolnikov_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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