Hawkeye Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 566 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 349 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/08/1985 Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/29/six-men-accused-of-disrupting-joel-osteens-sermon-at-lakewood-church/?tid=sm_fb As far as I know, we still have free speech in this country. Why were these guys arrested? It's bemusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2015 I applaud the men who rejected the false teachings of Joel Osteen's words and standing up for the true word of God.If Osteen is preaching a lie then let that be known. Galatians 1:7-9 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. Matthew 7:15-20 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/29/six-men-accused-of-disrupting-joel-osteens-sermon-at-lakewood-church/?tid=sm_fb As far as I know, we still have free speech in this country. Why were these guys arrested? It's bemusing. So, you go onto someone else's property, let's say a concert hall, or a movie theater. The place is packed with people, who have traveled, taken time out of their day, perhaps paid good money for tickets etc. Do you support the right of anyone in the audience to just get up and be a distraction against what all those people, and yourself, came to see and hear? Free speech is not unlimited, it is intended to allow you to protest your government, without fear of reprisal. It is not meant to allow Joe Blow to interrupt religious services. It would allow people to speak their own viewpoints, and they can, just not in someone else's venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Heckling someone on their own private property doesn't fall under the category of constitutionally protected speech. It is more akin to harassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2015 I googled the church that the disrupters came from. One of them wrote a manifesto on that site. It seems to imply that they have a goal of disrupting "orthodoxy". They have a history of doing this kind of thing elsewhere and being arrested. They dont play well with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 If they think Joel Osteen represents doctrinal Christian orthodoxy, they really haven't listened to his teachings very much and they don't know the Bible very well, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2015 Lol there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Lol I agree olsteen is a false prophet, but if you go into his church and scream your wrong in middle of service and they ask you to leave (or drag your butt out) that's not violating your rights-in fact if they have to drag you out its because your breaking the law-thats trespassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2015 If they think Joel Osteen represents doctrinal Christian orthodoxy, they really haven't listened to his teachings very much and they don't know the Bible very well, LOL That is for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/29/six-men-accused-of-disrupting-joel-osteens-sermon-at-lakewood-church/?tid=sm_fb As far as I know, we still have free speech in this country. Why were these guys arrested? It's bemusing. On the heels of murders of church people, the arrests are completely justified. Disturbing the peace is worthy of police detaining those who commit it. Disrupting an orderly church service is not exercising free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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