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[*Zion*]

This is why I said that we are to use as little of our own interpretation as we can and simply take the words as they are, and as you said, let the Holy Spirit do the rest.  The Bible is not just any other historical book, God's word endures for all time, and will never pass away.  It is as relevant today as it was 1000 years ago, and God's Word is living, and life in itself.  God intended for us to understand His Word just as it is.  We do the complicating by adding our own theories and such, which is in itself grave error.  The Holy Spirit reveals the depths of meaning in His Word, which is why we can't just read it just the once, but again and again, to dig deeper into God's Word and truth, and be securely grounded therein.

 

Blessings.

[Bible2]

thereselittleflower said in post 27:

 

I do not interpret Revelation by determining when end times events will happen.

 

If by when, you mean the year, month, and day, that's right.

 

But if you mean Revelation refers to the past, instead of to what is commonly called the end times, note that Revelation chapters 6 to 22 are still future to us, because they are about "things which must be hereafter" (Revelation 4:1b). And just as Jesus' 2nd coming in Revelation 19:7 to 20:3 has never been fulfilled, for nowhere in history books do we find its fulfillment, so the highly-detailed events of the preceding tribulation in Revelation chapters 6 to 18 have never been fulfilled, for nowhere in history books do we find their fulfillment.

 

That is, the tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, which Jesus will return immediately after (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), hasn't started yet. It will begin with a horrible war, which, with its aftermath of famines and epidemics, will end up killing 1/4 of the world (Revelation 6:4-8). The "great sword" of this war (Revelation 6:4) could be Israel's nuclear weapons. After this war, there will be a terrible series of natural disasters historically unprecedented in their magnitude, such as a gigantic volcanic eruption (Revelation 6:12-14), possibly of the Yellowstone Caldera, and then the collapse into the ocean of another erupting volcano (Revelation 8:8-9), possibly one of the Canary Islands, the collapse of which could set up a huge tsunami which could destroy the eastern seaboard of the U.S.

 

If such a tsunami occurs, it could cause a string of awful, Fukushima-type, nuclear-meltdown radiation disasters in the nuclear power plants and their nuclear-waste storage facilities all along the eastern seaboard of the U.S. Also, if the tsunami breaks open the germ-containment structures on Plum Island, just off the coast of Connecticut, especially-deadly viruses and bacteria could be washed inland and spread across the U.S. and Canada as they infect animals and people.

 

After the volcanic activity and possible tsunami, a comet will strike the earth (Revelation 8:10-11), possibly in the U.S. and Canadian Great Lakes region. As the comet falls from the sky, it will look like a great star, or like a burning lamp in the sky (Revelation 8:10). It will strike a region of the earth which contains 1/3 of the world's fresh surface water (Revelation 8:10b), and it will contain some poisonous element which will poison that water so that many who drink from it will die (Revelation 8:11b).

 

Sometime after that, weird locust-like beings will swarm up from the bottomless pit of the earth to torment mankind with excruciating stings for 5 months (Revelation 9:2-10). The world could see them as "aliens" who had been hibernating for thousands of years in a cavern deep underground. The locust-like beings won't kill anyone, but they will make those they sting want to die, the pain will be so bad (Revelation 9:5-6).

 

After that, an army of 200 million weird horse-like beings and their (possibly unclean spirit) riders will come upon the earth (Revelation 9:16-19). If they descend from the sky in spaceships, the world could see them as aliens. But they and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") could (falsely) say they are YHWH God's main army. In fact, they could be loyal to Lucifer (Satan, the dragon, Revelation 12:9). The 4 fallen angels now bound at the Euphrates who will lead this army (Revelation 9:14-16) could employ it to make mankind utterly desperate before its complete takeover by Lucifer and the Antichrist mid-tribulation (Revelation 12:9 to 13:18). For when this army starts killing 1/3 of mankind (Revelation 9:16-19), then could also begin one of the biggest deceptions ever wrought on humanity. For the Antichrist, who by that time could have managed to have been elected as the President of a Mediterranean Union formed by the joining of the European Union with an Arab Union stretching from Oman to Morocco, could announce to the world that he has sent a mental distress call to (what he could call) "My Father, our Lord Lucifer, to come with his legions of angels, and rescue mankind from this murderous army of YHWH".

 

(And all of this will be part of only the first half of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.)

 

It is at this point that Lucifer and his fallen angels could be cast down out of heaven to the earth permanently after losing a mid-tribulation war in heaven (Revelation 12:7-9). But instead of coming down as a defeated force, they could descend for all the world to see in gigantic, magnificent golden spaceships onto the "Champ de Mars", Mars being the same as Marduk the dragon, the chief god of ancient Babylon. The "Champ de Mars" is the large open area in front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris. After landing there, Lucifer, a literal 7-headed, red dragon (Revelation 12:3,9), could emerge in great splendor and command his angels to capture the army of 200 million weird horse-like beings and their (possibly unclean spirit) riders, who could then pretend to defect from serving YHWH to serving Lucifer. Lucifer could then confirm that he has come to rescue mankind because the Antichrist, who he could say is his only-begotten "Son", called upon him (like in an Antichrist counterfeit of Matthew 26:53). Lucifer and the Antichrist could then be received wholeheartedly by the unsaved world as the saviors of mankind. And the unsaved world could be left thinking (mistakenly) that Lucifer and his angels were more powerful than even YHWH God's main army.

 

Lucifer and the Antichrist, along with the Antichrist's miracle-working False Prophet, will then deceive the world into actually worshipping Lucifer and the Antichrist and a speaking (possibly an android) image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4-16, Revelation 19:20; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). And everyone will be made to receive a (possibly scarification) mark of the Antichrist either on their right hand or forehead, consisting of either the Antichrist's name or some representation of the gematrial number of his name (666) (Revelation 13:16-18). After Lucifer and the Antichrist have ruled the world for 3.5 literal years (Revelation 13:4-18), YHWH will send 7 vials of wrath against the unsaved world (Revelation 16).

 

Near the end of these 7 vials, unclean spirits like frogs will come out of the mouths of Lucifer, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet (Revelation 16:13). And these unclean spirits like frogs will go forth and perform amazing miracles to convince the world's armies to gather together at Armageddon (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel) (Revelation 16:16) to battle against YHWH himself (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:19). After gathering together at Armageddon as a staging area, the world's armies will travel south and pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus (who is YHWH: John 10:30) returns from heaven and defeats them completely (Revelation 19:11 to 20:6, Zechariah 14:2-21).

 

When Jesus returns, immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Revelation 19:7-21, Matthew 24:29-31), he will descend physically from heaven on a white horse (Revelation 19:7-21; 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Zechariah 14:3-4, Acts 1:11-12) with all the holy angels (Matthew 25:31; 2 Thessalonians 1:7) for all the world to see (Matthew 24:27,30, Revelation 1:7). Then the church will be physically resurrected (if dead) or changed (if alive) into immortality (1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Revelation 20:4-6) and caught up together/gathered together (raptured) (Matthew 24:31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1) as high as the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:17).

 

At that meeting, Jesus will judge the church (Psalms 50:3-5, cf. Mark 13:27; 2 Corinthians 5:10, Luke 12:45-48) and marry its obedient part (Revelation 19:7-8, Matthew 25:1-12) in the clouds, before it mounts white horses and comes back down from sky (the 1st heaven) with Jesus (Revelation 19:14) as he defeats the world's armies (Revelation 19:19,21), and the Antichrist and False Prophet (Revelation 19:20), and has Lucifer (Satan) bound in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-3).

 

Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Revelation 19:9 for the obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isaiah 25:6-9; 1 Corinthians 15:54), while the birds will feast on the corpses of the world's defeated armies (Revelation 19:17-18). Then Jesus and the obedient part of the church will rule the surviving nations with a rod of iron for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29, Psalms 2). After the 1,000 years, Lucifer will be released from the bottomless pit and bring about the Gog/Magog rebellion, only to be defeated for the last time (Revelation 20:7-10, Ezekiel chapters 38-39).

 

At least 7 years after that defeat (Ezekiel 39:9b), the great white throne judgment will occur, in which all those who hadn't been resurrected and judged at Jesus' return will be resurrected and judged (Revelation 20:11-15). Then God will create a new heaven (a new 1st heaven: a new sky/atmosphere for the earth) and a new earth (a new surface for the earth) (Revelation 21:1; 2 Peter 3:10b,13). Then God the Father will descend from the 3rd heaven in the literal city of New Jerusalem (Revelation 21:2), the Father's house (John 14:2, Revelation 21:3), and he will dwell on the earth with Jesus and the church (Revelation 21:3).

 

In one area outside the walls of New Jerusalem on the new earth will be the lake of fire (Revelation 22:15, Revelation 21:8), in which all of unsaved humanity will be punished forever in fire and brimstone with Lucifer and his fallen angels (Revelation 20:10,15, Matthew 25:41,46).

 

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thereselittleflower said in post 43:

 

. . . no one is infallible but God.

 

Amen!

 

And that includes all mortal church leaders past and present, even when claiming to speak "ex cathedra".

 

For while we are assured at least some people in the church will continue in the truth until Jesus' 2nd coming, for there will be true believers who will still be "alive and remain" at that time (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17), the way they will continue in the truth won't be by replacing God himself with church leaders (or "ex cathedra") as their source of truth, for church leaders (and so all "ex cathedra") are fallible (e.g. Matthew 16:23, Galatians 2:11-14, Luke 22:34). It is only by sticking close to God's own infallible Word the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16, Acts 17:11b, John 17:17) that believers can be sure not to be led astray by any church leaders who might be teaching false doctrines which contradict God's Word (2 Timothy 4:2-4; 1 Timothy 4:1, John 8:31b, Mark 8:35-38).

 

Because all humans (except Jesus) are fallible, the church itself (unlike God's own Word the Bible: 2 Timothy 3:16 to 4:4) has never been a perfect model for Christian doctrine and practice. There have always been wrong divisions (Acts 6:1; 1 Corinthians 1:12-13; 1 Corinthians 3:4) and heresies within the church (1 Corinthians 11:18-19). For even those whom the Holy Spirit has made leaders in the church (Acts 20:28) can wrongly employ their free will to teach wrong doctrines and practices which increase their power over people in the church (Acts 20:30, cf. also 3 John 1:9-10). They and their followers can mistakenly forget the warnings of 1 Peter 5:3, Matthew 20:25-27, and Matthew 23:8-12.

 

Also, even Satan's ministers can transform themselves into "apostles" of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:13-15, cf. also Matthew 7:15). And even those truly appointed as apostles by Jesus can wrongly employ their free will to fall from their office (Acts 1:17,20b,25). So even the teachings of apostles must be checked against God's own Word the Bible (Acts 17:11b). So how much more must the doctrine of lesser "teachers" in the church (1 Corinthians 12:28, Ephesians 4:11) be checked against the Bible, to make sure what they are teaching isn't mistaken (2 Peter 2:1-3; 2 Timothy 4:2-4)?

 

thereselittleflower said in post 43:

 

. . . no one is infallible but God.

 

This could become especially important in our future, for the beast which comes up out of the earth in Revelation 13:11-16 represents the individual man who will become the Antichrist's False Prophet (Revelation 19:20, Revelation 16:13). He could be a secretly-apostate pope who at some point during his tenure will make a great push for peace and unity between Christianity and Islam. He could say something like: "Why do we fight each other? Are we not all the spiritual children of Abraham and of his God, the one God? Can't we lay aside our foolish, man-made differences of theology, which have done us no good at all, but only brought us hatred and violence, and unite into one religion of Abraham, one religion of peace, based on love for the one God and love for our fellow man? What is more important than this?"

 

He could be so skillful in elucidating what the moderate Muslims could call "the true, peaceful, loving nature of Islam", that he could be hailed by them worldwide as (in their words) "a Great Imam, come to rescue our beloved Islam from the bad reputation falsely given to it by the terrorists". In this way, a pope could come to hold high positions of power in 2 religions at the same time, which could be symbolized by the 2 horns of the False Prophet lamb (Revelation 13:11). This would be similar to how the 7 horns of the true-Jesus lamb in Revelation 5:6 could represent the true Jesus holding 7 positions of power at the same time (cf. Jesus wearing many crowns at the same time in Revelation 19:12). The False Prophet could even say that he is Jesus. (But he won't say that he is Christ, for the False Prophet and the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Christ, and will deny that Christ is in the flesh: 1 John 2:22; 2 John 1:7.)

 

Once the False Prophet by his amazing miracles has brought the world under his spell (Revelation 13:13-18, Revelation 19:20), including many Muslims and Christians who may not care much for scriptural dogma, but could go wild over his signs and wonders, he could begin to (in his words) "restore to the world the real message which was spoken by me (Jesus) at my first coming, and by the great prophet Mohammed, but which message became corrupted by power-hungry men when they copied and changed the early manuscripts of the Bible and the Koran". He could then gradually initiate the world into the Antichrist's Gnostic Luciferianism (1 John 4:3, Revelation 13:4-6), a religion which could have existed since ancient times in some "mystery" cults, and which still exists today in the highest degree of initiation of a worldwide secret society. The False Prophet could present his miraculously calling fire down from heaven (Revelation 13:13) as purported proof that Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) and the Antichrist are the true God (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9), in an inversion of how back in Old Testament times, Elijah miraculously called fire down from heaven to prove that YHWH is the true God (1 Kings 18:37-39).

 

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If a secretly-apostate pope does become the Antichrist's False Prophet (of Revelation 13:11-16, Revelation 19:20, and Revelation 16:13), adherents of Catholicism will have to decide what their ultimate source of truth is: Is it the pope and the RCC, or God and the Bible? Many adherents of Catholicism who know God and the Bible well and hold to them as their ultimate source of truth will no doubt be utterly aghast at the false doctrines of a False Prophet pope. Such adherents of Catholicism could demand that he be removed for heresy and apostasy, and that the cardinals elect a new pope. But other adherents of Catholicism, including many cardinals, bishops, and priests, could be deceived (along with most of the rest of the world) into believing the False Prophet pope's false doctrines, because of his ability to perform the most amazing miracles (Revelation 13:13-14, Revelation 19:20; cf. Matthew 24:24).

 

And so a great schism could arise within the RCC. Compare the Akita prophecy: "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops". Many adherents of Catholicism could follow the False Prophet pope, while other adherents of Catholicism could reject him and eventually even elect their own, new pope (or reinstall a former pope who is still alive), whom they could declare to be the "True pope". But this new (or reinstated), "True pope" could then be murdered, along with many of his followers, by the False Prophet pope's soldiers. Compare the 3rd Secret of Fatima: "he [the pope] was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions". Could the soldiers firing "arrows" be the Vatican's Swiss Guards, whose weapons and colorful uniforms hark back to the Middle Ages?

 

After this slaughter, the False Prophet pope could manage to retain the papacy and full control of the Vatican, and through his (deceived) cardinals, bishops, and priests, retain full control of all RCC cathedrals, parishes, churches, etc., throughout the world. And when the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") obtains power over all nations, he and the False Prophet will make war against true, Biblical Christians (whether they are adherents of Catholicism or not) throughout the world, and will physically overcome them and kill them (by beheading) in every nation (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-13).

 

It is only when the Antichrist has completely broken all the physical power of the true church (which consists of all true believers, whether they are adherents of Catholicism or not: Ephesians 4:4-6) that the future tribulation will end (Daniel 12:7b) and Jesus' 2nd coming will immediately occur, at which time he will physically resurrect and rapture (gather together) the church (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6). At his 2nd coming, Jesus will tread the winepress of God's wrath alone (Isaiah 63:3, Revelation 19:15-21), and so he/God will get all the glory for defeating the power of evil on the earth (Deuteronomy 32:39-43), for he/God won't share this glory with the church (cf. Isaiah 42:8-14, Isaiah 26:18).

[Bible2]

bopeep1909 said in post 42:

 

I read the book of Revelation how God wants us to read it and that is literally.

 

Amen!

 

For Revelation is almost entirely literal, because it is unsealed (Revelation 22:10), meaning it shouldn't be difficult for saved people of any time to understand it if they simply read it as it is written: chronologically and almost-entirely literally. The few parts of it that are symbolic are almost always explained afterward (e.g. Revelation 1:20, Revelation 17:9-12). And Revelation's few symbols not explained afterward (e.g. Revelation 13:2) are usually explained elsewhere in the Bible (e.g. Daniel 7:4-7,17).

 

Just as Jesus' 2nd coming in Revelation 19:7 to 20:3 will be fulfilled almost entirely literally, so the events of the preceding tribulation in Revelation chapters 6 to 18 will be fulfilled almost entirely literally. Also, the millennium in Revelation 20 will be literal, and will begin after Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6, Zechariah 14:3-21), when he will reign on the earth with the physically resurrected church for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29, Psalms 66:3-4, Psalms 72:8-11). After that, the events of Revelation 20:7 to 22:5 will occur literally.

[Bible2]

*Zion* said in post 44:

 

God said: 'Let there be light.' and there was light, long before He made the sun, moon, and other stars in the sky.

 

Note that Genesis 1:3-5 doesn't have to mean "Let light exist for the first time anywhere", but can simply mean "Let there be light on the earth".

 

Genesis 1:3-5 could mean that God had some light source in space temporarily light up 1/2 of the earth as bright as day, 3 literal, 24-hour days before he created the sun (Genesis 1:14-19).

 

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Someone might ask: "Could the light have come from inside God's temple in heaven?"

 

Possibly, for the 3rd "heaven" of the earth (2 Corinthians 12:2b) could be not far beyond both the earth's atmosphere (the 1st "heaven": Genesis 1:20b) and a region of surrounding, outer space (the 2nd "heaven": Deuteronomy 4:19). I.e., the earth's 3rd heaven, in a 4th, spiritual, spatial dimension, could be close enough to the earth so that light sent down from the 3rd heaven miraculously and temporarily by God could have lit up 1/2 of the earth as bright as day, 3 literal, 24-hour days before God created the sun (Genesis 1:14-19).

 

But this would work only if the earth's 3rd heaven is located off to one side of the earth. It could in fact be located high above the north pole (cf. the connection between heaven and "the north" in Isaiah 14:13, KJV), in which case, light sent down to the earth would have lit up the northern hemisphere in a continuous daylight and left the southern hemisphere in a continuous night. But this doesn't match Genesis 1:5b, for it refers to a daily, alternating light and darkness, like we experience today. Also, what we today call "the northern lights", while they can been explained by physics, could point to the glory of the 3rd heaven's location. And Psalms 48:2's reference to "the north" could refer to the location of the literal city of New Jerusalem, which is now in the 3rd heaven (Hebrews 12:22).

 

*Zion* said in post 44:

 

God said: 'Let there be light.' and there was light, long before He made the sun, moon, and other stars in the sky.

 

Note that Genesis 1:16 only requires that at that time, God created the sun and the moon. For there is no "he made" in the original Hebrew before "the stars also", which phrase could simply mean that the stars (which God could have created at some prior times, such as billions of years earlier) also "rule" the night along with the moon.

 

Or, because there is no "the" before "stars" in the original Hebrew, Genesis 1:16 could mean that God made only some stars at that time to serve as "signs for seasons" (Genesis 1:14), such as the stars in the Mazzaroth (cf. the Zodiac) constellations (Job 38:32), which stars are extremely few in relation to the total number of stars in the universe.

 

Even in the night sky as a whole, there are only something like 6,000 stars visible to the naked eye, while the universe contains something like 100 billion galaxies, each containing something like 100 billion stars. So even if Genesis 1:16 refers to God creating at that time all the 6,000 or so stars visible to the naked eye in the night sky, this doesn't require that he created all of the other stars in the universe at that time, which other stars aren't visible to the naked eye, and so would serve no function for people on the earth before the invention of telescopes.

[missmuffet]

This is why I said that we are to use as little of our own interpretation as we can and simply take the words as they are, and as you said, let the Holy Spirit do the rest.  The Bible is not just any other historical book, God's word endures for all time, and will never pass away.  It is as relevant today as it was 1000 years ago, and God's Word is living, and life in itself.  God intended for us to understand His Word just as it is.  We do the complicating by adding our own theories and such, which is in itself grave error.  The Holy Spirit reveals the depths of meaning in His Word, which is why we can't just read it just the once, but again and again, to dig deeper into God's Word and truth, and be securely grounded therein.

 

Blessings.

Well said sis.

[thereselittleflower]

This is why I said that we are to use as little of our own interpretation as we can and simply take the words as they are, and as you said, let the Holy Spirit do the rest.  The Bible is not just any other historical book, God's word endures for all time, and will never pass away.  It is as relevant today as it was 1000 years ago, and God's Word is living, and life in itself.  God intended for us to understand His Word just as it is.  We do the complicating by adding our own theories and such, which is in itself grave error.  The Holy Spirit reveals the depths of meaning in His Word, which is why we can't just read it just the once, but again and again, to dig deeper into God's Word and truth, and be securely grounded therein.

 

Blessings.

 

 

That is an impossible task *Zion" for by definition all words must be interpreted by us so we are able to make any sense out of the markings we see on a page.

 

This is the way we are made.  We are always interpreting everything we read, everything we hear, everything around us.

 

It is how our mind makes sense of everything.

 

It is the way God made us.

 

 

And we interpret what we read, what we see, what we hear, etc by the lenses we have formed through our culture and our upbringing, and our experiences,  regardless of whether those filters allow us to see, or prevent us from seeing things as  they really are.

[missmuffet]

 

This is why I said that we are to use as little of our own interpretation as we can and simply take the words as they are, and as you said, let the Holy Spirit do the rest.  The Bible is not just any other historical book, God's word endures for all time, and will never pass away.  It is as relevant today as it was 1000 years ago, and God's Word is living, and life in itself.  God intended for us to understand His Word just as it is.  We do the complicating by adding our own theories and such, which is in itself grave error.  The Holy Spirit reveals the depths of meaning in His Word, which is why we can't just read it just the once, but again and again, to dig deeper into God's Word and truth, and be securely grounded therein.

 

Blessings.

 

 

That is an impossible task *Zion" for by definition all words must be interpreted by us so we are able to make any sense out of the markings we see on a page.

 

This is the way we are made.  We are always interpreting everything we read, everything we hear, everything around us.

 

It is how our mind makes sense of everything.

 

It is the way God made us.

 

 

And we interpret what we read, what we see, what we hear, etc by the lenses we have formed through our culture and our upbringing, and our experiences,  regardless of whether those filters allow us to see, or prevent us from seeing things as  they really are.

 

Yes but a person must not spiritualize the words of Scripture to give it the meaning that they want to hear.That is not the way God intended for the Bible to be read.You read the words and then your brain digests the words and you understand them.Pray and ask the Holy Spirit to give you knowledge to read those words the way God intended.You can not slaughter the Bible by giving it your own meaning.Satan loves that.

[missmuffet]

When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

[angels4u]

People you`re missing the point of the Gospel ,it`s only Jesus who can save us!

 

To Jesus belongs all glory and power !

 

"Jesus Saves"
 

Hope is here, shout the news to everyone
It's a new day, peace has come, Jesus saves
Mercy triumphs at the cross
Love is come to rescue us, Jesus saves

Hope is here what a joyful noise we'll make
As we join with heaven's song
To let all the world know that Jesus saves
Raise a shout to let all the world know that Jesus saves

Free at last, every debt has been repaid
Broken hearts can be remade, Jesus saves
Sing above the storms of life, sing through the darkest night
Jesus saves

Free at last, what a joyful noise we'll make
As we join with heaven's song
To let all the world know that Jesus saves
Raise a shout to let all the world know that Jesus saves

We'll sing it out to let all the world know
That Jesus saves
Raise a shout to let all the world know
That Jesus saves

You save, you heal, restore, reveal
Your Father's heart to us
You rose to raise us from the grave
Your spirit lives in us

Sing it out to let all the world know
That Jesus saves
Raise a shout to let all the world know that
Jesus saves

Shout it out to let all the world know
That Jesus saves
Raise a shout to let all the world know that
Jesus saves

Sing it out to let all the world know
That Jesus saves
Raise a shout to let all the world know
That Jesus saves

Oh, sing it out and shout 'til the whole world knows his name
(Jesus saves)
Sing it out and shout for we will know your name
(Jesus saves)

Jesus
Jesus

[FresnoJoe]

So the question becomes, what plumb-line do we use to measure our personal interpretation of scripture against?

 

~

 

Beloved, By Scripture

 

Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Acts 17:11 (NASB)

 

As In This

 

For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;

and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,

 

            “THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,

            HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.”

 

           “THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,

            WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.”

 

From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. Romans 11:25-29 (NASB)

 

And

 

Thus says the LORD,

 

            “If the heavens above can be measured

            And the foundations of the earth searched out below,

            Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel

            For all that they have done,” declares the LORD. Jeremiah 31:37 (NASB)

 

And

 

“And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD

            Will be delivered;

            For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem

            There will be those who escape,

            As the LORD has said,

            Even among the survivors whom the LORD calls. Joel 2:32 (NASB)

 

And That

 

Israel has been saved by the LORD

            With an everlasting salvation;

            You will not be put to shame or humiliated

            To all eternity. Isaiah 45:17 (NASB)