Guest shiloh357 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Also Patriot, what do you consider "a few" ? Many Prisoners on Death Row are Wrongfully ConvictedThe issue affects a significant number of people. Since 1973 144 death-sentenced defendants have been exonerated in the U.S. But Gross says that the analysis indicates that at least 340 people would have been put to death unjustly in that same time period. “There are no other reliable estimates of the rate of false conviction in any context,” the researchers wrote in the study, published online on April 28 inProceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.The researchers also note that a 4.1 percent rate of false conviction is conservative, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/many-prisoners-on-death-row-are-wrongfully-convicted/ As of April 1, 2015, there were 3,002 death row inmates in the United States. Total Number of Death Row Inmates as of April 1, 2015: 3,002 State# ofInmates State# ofInmates State# ofInmatesCalifornia746Oklahoma48Kansas9Florida401Mississippi48Utah9Texas271S. Carolina44Washington9Alabama201Oregon36Virginia8Penn.184Missouri33U.S. Military6N. Carolina157Kentucky34Colorado3Ohio145Arkansas35South Dakota3Arizona124Delaware17Montana2Georgia85Indiana14New Mexico*2Louisiana85Connecticut**12Wyoming1Nevada78Nebraska11New Hampshire1Tennessee73Idaho11 U.S. Gov't.61 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year SIZE OF DEATH ROW BY YEAR - (1968 - present)196851719821,05019963,2192010 3,158196957519831,20919973,3352011 3,082197063119841,40519983,4522012 3,033197164219851,59119993,52720132,979197233419861,78120003,5932014* 3,054197313419871,98420013,5812015* 3,002197424419882,12420023,557 197548819892,25020033,374 197642019902,35620043,315 197742319912,48220053,254 197848219922,57520063,228 197953919932,71620073,215 198069119942,89020083,207 198185619953,05420093,173 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year A few? With a CONSERVATIVE 4.1% false conviction rate? This year there were over 3000 on death row at the same time as of April. Using the CONSERVATIVE 4.1% false conviction rate above, that gives us 123+ people on death row who are actually innocent. If they all were to executed today, 123 innocent people would be murdered. And that's a conservative estimation. I guess the murder by execution of 123 innocent people this year would be ok? And this is just those who are on death row. This does not include those who are in prison for life for wrongly being convicted of murder. The system isn't perfect, but the death penalty is biblical and biblically mandated. Better science will reduce the number of false convictions. But we cannot scrap our system because we get it wrong sometimes. Far more criminals are justly convicted than innocent people falsely convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted October 7, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2015 You're right. We should blame the lion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 7, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2015 You're right. We should blame the lion!that's right, the stupid lion just shouldn't have been where he was.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 7, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2015 Patriot, you don't have to let the 3.000 out, just don't kill them.... and for the sake of the 123, yes we should just put them in prision for thier lives. And it really wouldn't cost any more than we spend killing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted October 7, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2015 Also Patriot, what do you consider "a few" ? Many Prisoners on Death Row are Wrongfully ConvictedThe issue affects a significant number of people. Since 1973 144 death-sentenced defendants have been exonerated in the U.S. But Gross says that the analysis indicates that at least 340 people would have been put to death unjustly in that same time period. “There are no other reliable estimates of the rate of false conviction in any context,” the researchers wrote in the study, published online on April 28 inProceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.The researchers also note that a 4.1 percent rate of false conviction is conservative, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/many-prisoners-on-death-row-are-wrongfully-convicted/ As of April 1, 2015, there were 3,002 death row inmates in the United States. Total Number of Death Row Inmates as of April 1, 2015: 3,002 State# ofInmates State# ofInmates State# ofInmatesCalifornia746Oklahoma48Kansas9Florida401Mississippi48Utah9Texas271S. Carolina44Washington9Alabama201Oregon36Virginia8Penn.184Missouri33U.S. Military6N. Carolina157Kentucky34Colorado3Ohio145Arkansas35South Dakota3Arizona124Delaware17Montana2Georgia85Indiana14New Mexico*2Louisiana85Connecticut**12Wyoming1Nevada78Nebraska11New Hampshire1Tennessee73Idaho11 U.S. Gov't.61 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year SIZE OF DEATH ROW BY YEAR - (1968 - present)196851719821,05019963,2192010 3,158196957519831,20919973,3352011 3,082197063119841,40519983,4522012 3,033197164219851,59119993,52720132,979197233419861,78120003,5932014* 3,054197313419871,98420013,5812015* 3,002197424419882,12420023,557 197548819892,25020033,374 197642019902,35620043,315 197742319912,48220053,254 197848219922,57520063,228 197953919932,71620073,215 198069119942,89020083,207 198185619953,05420093,173 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year A few? With a CONSERVATIVE 4.1% false conviction rate? This year there were over 3000 on death row at the same time as of April. Using the CONSERVATIVE 4.1% false conviction rate above, that gives us 123+ people on death row who are actually innocent. If they all were to executed today, 123 innocent people would be murdered. And that's a conservative estimation. I guess the murder by execution of 123 innocent people this year would be ok? And this is just those who are on death row. This does not include those who are in prison for life for wrongly being convicted of murder. The system isn't perfect, but the death penalty is biblical and biblically mandated. Better science will reduce the number of false convictions. But we cannot scrap our system because we get it wrong sometimes. Far more criminals are justly convicted than innocent people falsely convicted.If one cannot be sure the one they are about to kill is indeed guilty, should they kill him or her?For instance in the state of WA:While multiple states continue to haggle over whether they can hide the way they kill people, the governor of Washington has decided to enter what he calls the “growing national conversation about capital punishment” on the other side — issuing a moratorium on all executions in the state because he is not convinced “equal justice is being served.”In his surprise speech on Tuesday afternoon, Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat elected in 2012, did not commute the sentences of the nine men currently on Washington’s death row, and he made it clear that he believed in their guilt. “They get no mercy from me,” the governor said. But in fact they do, at least as long as he holds office.“If a death penalty case comes to my desk for action, I will issue a reprieve,” Mr. Inslee said.The governor and his staff reviewed capital punishment practices in the state over the past year and came away with a clear diagnosis: there are simply “too many doubts,” he said, about the system’s reliability. Since 1981, the majority of Washington’s death sentences have been overturned. That calls the entire system into question, the governor said, and there is “too much at stake to accept an imperfect system.”http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/on-the-death-penalty-too-many-doubts/?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Also Patriot, what do you consider "a few" ? Many Prisoners on Death Row are Wrongfully ConvictedThe issue affects a significant number of people. Since 1973 144 death-sentenced defendants have been exonerated in the U.S. But Gross says that the analysis indicates that at least 340 people would have been put to death unjustly in that same time period. “There are no other reliable estimates of the rate of false conviction in any context,” the researchers wrote in the study, published online on April 28 inProceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.The researchers also note that a 4.1 percent rate of false conviction is conservative, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/many-prisoners-on-death-row-are-wrongfully-convicted/ As of April 1, 2015, there were 3,002 death row inmates in the United States. Total Number of Death Row Inmates as of April 1, 2015: 3,002 State# ofInmates State# ofInmates State# ofInmatesCalifornia746Oklahoma48Kansas9Florida401Mississippi48Utah9Texas271S. Carolina44Washington9Alabama201Oregon36Virginia8Penn.184Missouri33U.S. Military6N. Carolina157Kentucky34Colorado3Ohio145Arkansas35South Dakota3Arizona124Delaware17Montana2Georgia85Indiana14New Mexico*2Louisiana85Connecticut**12Wyoming1Nevada78Nebraska11New Hampshire1Tennessee73Idaho11 U.S. Gov't.61 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year SIZE OF DEATH ROW BY YEAR - (1968 - present)196851719821,05019963,2192010 3,158196957519831,20919973,3352011 3,082197063119841,40519983,4522012 3,033197164219851,59119993,52720132,979197233419861,78120003,5932014* 3,054197313419871,98420013,5812015* 3,002197424419882,12420023,557 197548819892,25020033,374 197642019902,35620043,315 197742319912,48220053,254 197848219922,57520063,228 197953919932,71620073,215 198069119942,89020083,207 198185619953,05420093,173 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row-inmates-state-and-size-death-row-year A few? With a CONSERVATIVE 4.1% false conviction rate? This year there were over 3000 on death row at the same time as of April. Using the CONSERVATIVE 4.1% false conviction rate above, that gives us 123+ people on death row who are actually innocent. If they all were to executed today, 123 innocent people would be murdered. And that's a conservative estimation. I guess the murder by execution of 123 innocent people this year would be ok? And this is just those who are on death row. This does not include those who are in prison for life for wrongly being convicted of murder. The system isn't perfect, but the death penalty is biblical and biblically mandated. Better science will reduce the number of false convictions. But we cannot scrap our system because we get it wrong sometimes. Far more criminals are justly convicted than innocent people falsely convicted.If one cannot be sure the one they are about to kill is indeed guilty, should they kill him or her?For instance in the state of WA:While multiple states continue to haggle over whether they can hide the way they kill people, the governor of Washington has decided to enter what he calls the “growing national conversation about capital punishment” on the other side — issuing a moratorium on all executions in the state because he is not convinced “equal justice is being served.”In his surprise speech on Tuesday afternoon, Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat elected in 2012, did not commute the sentences of the nine men currently on Washington’s death row, and he made it clear that he believed in their guilt. “They get no mercy from me,” the governor said. But in fact they do, at least as long as he holds office.“If a death penalty case comes to my desk for action, I will issue a reprieve,” Mr. Inslee said.The governor and his staff reviewed capital punishment practices in the state over the past year and came away with a clear diagnosis: there are simply “too many doubts,” he said, about the system’s reliability. Since 1981, the majority of Washington’s death sentences have been overturned. That calls the entire system into question, the governor said, and there is “too much at stake to accept an imperfect system.”http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/on-the-death-penalty-too-many-doubts/?_r=0 As I said, when all of the evidence is weighed and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt has been established, then there is no uncertainty. We have made incredible leaps in our ability to determine through DNA and other areas the guilt or innocence of a person.The death penalty is good. It is right to have the death penalty is right. God is pro-death penalty and if you are against it, then you will have to explain to God why you feel you operate from a higher moral plain than He does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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