Dear Pastor

[nebula]

Christian Counselor, did you happen to miss the last part of my letter? Maybe you should look over it again. Specifically these parts:

I am part of a religion that is more concerned about whether Christ comes back before or after seven years of Tribulation than they are about the billions of lost people that won

[apothanein kerdos]

And self-promotion is a very, very bad idea. We've got too many of them running around! It's the message that needs to spread, not more messangers.

Exactly why I tried to keep myself out of the letter.

[Guest His_Servant]

Women wearing pants is wrong!!?? Goodness, whoever made that comment must live near me because that is ALL I hear about. I hate it too. Come where I live, and you won't find many churches where women wear pants. I'm thinkin on makin a scene sometime soon! I'd like to wear my jeans to every service.

Super Jew,

Thats a good letter, and I hope those who get it really read it and have their eyes opened by the Lord. There is so much nonsense going on in churches today....it's just ridiculous!

Not long after I was saved, I was told a story that still to this day disturbs me. You see, I live in a rural area in Kentucky where so so many are closed minded and set in their ways. ANYWAY, years ago near this area, a woman walked off the street into a church. The woman was wearing jeans, and looked pretty rough from what I was told. When she walked into the church, she went up to the altar and cried her eyes out. Everyone in the church just sat and looked at her. Maybe it was because she wasn't dressed as they thought she should be...I dunno. Anyway, the woman cried at the altar all alone...no one ever went to help her. At some point, the lady ended up leaving the church. She was found the next morning dead...she had killed herself.

God in Heaven help us to NEVER turn anyone away by ANYTHING that we do.

[Paul]

As a Pastor, I can disagree little with you letter. I feel the "Church" is more worried about conducting "Church" business, that taking care of "Christian matters. When my wife and I were first married, when she said "I love You" I said, "Don't tell me, show me". That is how Christian folks need to be, showing love to the Saint and sinner alike, not approving of sinful lifestyles, just loving.

I also realize that even though my calling is Pastor, I am NOT more important that ANYONE else. we are all members of ONE body, you cannot do my job, I cannot do yours, both need to be done.

Let me close by saying, When Jesus saved our souls, he gave us direction, joining a Church does not supersede that direction. If you are ever down my way, come visit us as Church (jeans and t-shirts welcome)

[apothanein kerdos]

I will definately swing your way if I'm ever in Kentucky. Seems like you have a good church going there. How close is it to Louisville?

[Paul]

Super Jew, you are welcome anytime, we are in a little town called Custer, in Breckenridge county, about 50 miles southeast of louisville, we a growing (excited) little Church, we have our problems like everyone else, but we have the answer! God Bless

[apothanein kerdos]

That is one thing I left out. I do not expect any church to be "utopian" but that all will have problems....oops.

[wouldhe]

Churches should be free of a dress code.DELETE.I agreed with you until several days ago until the Holy Spirit told me that Christian girls/women must stop dressing like men and that rules out pants or slacks.This is a major concern for God has so remove this portion of your letter. Tell them what the Holy Spirit told me;the rapture will occur this year.Maybe that will wake them up.

I disagree.

Christian Counselor February 5,2005

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[Guest mousiegurl69]

I agreed with you until several days ago until the Holy Spirit told me that Christian girls/women must stop dressing like men and that rules out pants or slacks.This is a major concern for God has so remove this portion of your letter. Tell them what the Holy Spirit told me;the rapture will occur this year.Maybe that will wake them up. END QUOTE

Well there is an interesting thought. I do believe that it was the women who wore the pants in that culture of which you don't mention. I spent two months in Morrocco and one week in Isreal, so I saw how they dress and so on. Personally I can say that God doesn't care how you come to him as long as you do. He waits to take us as we come and then he does the cleaning job, with our co-operation. Listen I hang around people who are more than easy about going to church in Jeans and T-shirts. I've even seen some of them in dirty and ripped clothes in church. Fortunatly the congregations here around Toronto and surrounding area's are more leanient, Not all mind you but enough that it's making a difference. This is no longer about what is proper etiquete but its about reaching out in love. You obviously can't accept wrong behavior, yet you can walk beside someone who needs you no matter what they look like. If you doubt it then try it.

Second It's a very bold statement to say God told somone his coming would be this year. How many years has people been saying that and the year ends and OPPS no Jesus. Oh yes he is coming but The bible clearly states That of that time no one knows but the father. If it also says his coming would be like a theif in the night, then that says nobody would be forewarned just as in the parable of the ten virgins. No time frame was given. I can and do respect the oppinions of others but I must say that I don't agree with this one.

Respectfully:

Mousiegurl

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[irishcowboy]

Women wearing pants is wrong!!??  Goodness, whoever made that comment must live near me because that is ALL I hear about.  I hate it too.  Come where I live, and you won't find many churches where women wear pants.  I'm thinkin on makin a scene sometime soon!  I'd like to wear my jeans to every service.

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Hey, believe it or not, there are churches that when they found out that a missionary family wore nothing but pants, they stopped all their funding, all the monies they had been supporting these missionaries with, they flat stopped it.

the missionary family is missionaries north of the Arctic Circle.... talk about legalistic.

another missionary i know of just about lost his funding from one congregation cause he grew a beard......

come now.....

i know of one church congregation, claiming to be a main line denomination, flaunting hatred and at the same time boasting that they are the only true Christian Congregation and if you are not a member of this baptist congregation ( not of the baptist church, but that pedicular congregation you are lost, they have it set where if a dress is above a certain point you are sinning, but at the same time are selling thongs in the church store, with very inappropriate sayings on them, they also have much more going on. a massive hatred towards anyone that does not belong to that congregation.

we all have to do our job, and that job is go out and win souls, not just the pastors, but the parishioners. that is our job, the pastors job is to help train us.

mike