Daniel 11:36 Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 Let's take it to a Biblical perspective .... then we are finished with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 Do you believe they are Jews from Israel? They are .... no question about this Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people These are a selected group of Israel set apart during the tribulation period who will take the gospel of the coming millennial kingdom to the world [Revelation 9:4] .... the first believers of the tribulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 @Davida Yes,the Bible clearly states that. why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 The Bible clearly says who the 144,000 are. It also clearly states where they come from and who they are, so I'm not going to derail this thread. People claim things all day,it doesn't change what the Bible says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Davida said: That is not answering. So do you agree with my above post and Daniel 11:36 post? -that they are Saved Jewish virgins from out of Israel? Yes,I think I already said yes when you asked the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut- Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,673 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 7,358 Days Won: 67 Joined: 04/22/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 To clarify something that I haven't seen mentioned, at least not in the latest discussion, but matters to this discussion. The 12 tribes mentioned in Revelation are not the same 12 tribes as the original 12 tribes of Israel, 2 are different. I would recommend a comparison. God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Davida said: Thanks. I explained why I asked for clarity on that. Plenty of people today think they are from the lost tribes of Israel. Some in the Charismatics & Pentecostals believe Christians belong to the tribes of Israel mentioned in Revelations. Until questions are asked in more detail it can be easy to misunderstand exactly what the person is referring to. Your Welcome. If you look over the previous pages you will see through scripture that no christian will be apart of the 144k. That belief has no scripture to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 "To clarify something that I haven't seen mentioned, at least not in the latest discussion, but matters to this discussion. The 12 tribes mentioned in Revelation are not the same 12 tribes as the original 12 tribes of Israel, 2 are different. I would recommend a comparison." The comparison has been made and it is not very significant Believe that the 12 tribes involved will be of Israel in the tribulation period for a specific purpose as noted in Revelation chapter 14 These will be the first believers of the tribulation period with others to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, Davida said: They are saved Jews= Jews that are believers. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,727 Content Per Day: 1.04 Reputation: 2,305 Days Won: 5 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2017 Another lost tribe has been recently found in India. They are identified as Jews because they have kept the Jewish customs all these years and are a small people who Israel identify and acknowledge as the descendants of Mannaseh. They do not look like Jews because they have been mixed, but their Jewish Customs have been preserved all these years. Now if they are following the old Jewish customs according to the Law, then they can not be following Christ. The 144K are following Christ's way, not the Law. The 144K, could possibly be Israel's descendants, not recognised as Jews, but gentiles. The 10 lost tribes were scattered throughout the earth. Those who kept the customs of Moses and the law can be identified through their worship, and possibly a blood test. The rest are identified through their heart for Christ. Christ said himself how you cannot put new wine into old wine bottles or the bottle will burst. Therefore new wine must be put into new bottles. This means that those who are already filled with a doctrine cannot take the new wine. The new wine must be put into new bottles - are those who don't have a doctrine or custom, ie the gentiles. Those who come to Christ as a little child claiming they know nothing but willing to be taught are the new bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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