Guest Thallasa Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 44 minutes ago, other one said: I have very good friends who agree with you. I have no friends like that , nor family . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted February 22, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,190 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted February 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ezra said: That's a bit of an exaggeration. This view may have prevailed a long time ago but there are only a few members of the Flat Earthy Society today (perhaps 500). yeah and they all live in Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 22, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, Ezra said: That's a bit of an exaggeration. This view may have prevailed a long time ago but there are only a few members of the Flat Earthy Society today (perhaps 500). Dr Michael Heiser does not agree with the Flat Earth Society, and has a doctorate in Hebrew and Greek and he will tell you that it literally says that it's a flat round disk..... but he will also tell you why it says that and that you would be foolish to take all that literally. And he knows much more about Hebrew than I ever will..... and he is not the only one, just the most credentialed. I would post some of his video's, but it's really too much for the mods to spend that much time.... but because the subject gets complex when you go through all the scripture that the video's can get kind of long he also has a couple of books that are interesitng,,,, but alas also time consuming..... in the hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 On 14/02/2016 at 4:17 PM, ARGOSY said: I'm not really following you. God is eternal. That is my scriptural backing. He also created the concept of creativity, because He created everything. A creative eternal God would therefore, just by definition of His character, would have been doing things before creation week. C'est du Logique ,it is logical . But some frown on using the brains He gave us ,forgetting that we were made in His image ,to be creative . Just because some wish to be gods ,which is not the same as being "in His image", we should not frown on creative thinking . Mark 9 : 40"He is not against us is for us ". Matt .12 :30 3He who is not with me ,is against me".Two seemingly contradictory sayings of Our Lord , well explained by Ken Collins on his website, in this article ," Did Jesus contradict Himself, about who is on His side " ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted February 23, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,190 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted February 23, 2016 unfortunately that is much of the problem with all this - non-disciplined hermeneutical practice so that opinion is whatever one thinks... It doesn't have to be based on God's Word but what I imagine god's word to be ... when they stand before The Living Word and all that is being used now -I feel, I think, I imagine will be empty words not able to be spoken in His Presence... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted February 24, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted February 24, 2016 19 hours ago, Thallasa said: C'est du Logique ,it is logical . But some frown on using the brains He gave us ,forgetting that we were made in His image ,to be creative . Just because some wish to be gods ,which is not the same as being "in His image", we should not frown on creative thinking . Mark 9 : 40"He is not against us is for us ". Matt .12 :30 3He who is not with me ,is against me".Two seemingly contradictory sayings of Our Lord , well explained by Ken Collins on his website, in this article ," Did Jesus contradict Himself, about who is on His side " ? Yes, no harm in using this brain that God gave us. Jesus always gave thoughtful answers to his detractors. He was inspired by the Holy Spirit yet still his answers were logical. That was an interesting read, the layman has a role. And we should favor those ideas that glorify Jesus instead of glorifying ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 7 hours ago, ARGOSY said: Yes, no harm in using this brain that God gave us. Jesus always gave thoughtful answers to his detractors. He was inspired by the Holy Spirit yet still his answers were logical. That was an interesting read, the layman has a role. And we should favor those ideas that glorify Jesus instead of glorifying ourselves. Good that you read it ,I thought it would be good to look at situations where He seems to say contradictory things , but in fact they are not . I think it adds to our faith and understanding, when we look into them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegi91 Posted February 24, 2016 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 12 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,802 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/22/2016 at 2:20 PM, ARGOSY said: Exactly, and while he was existing before the birth of the universe, he was surely doing stuff. So what then is the "beginning" as per Genesis 1:1? I think it was just the beginning of Mankind's story, when I read that God turned an empty and watery wasteland into a planet able to handle life. To claim Genesis 1:1 was the beginning of all things is to undermine the very nature of God who never had a beginning. Yes, mankind history. The time when people had the time to write books instead of hunting and gathering. By the way, Genesis 1:1 does not address the beginning of God. It addresses the beginning of what He created. So, all things minus one. On a related note: what does it mean empty and watery? If it has water, it is not empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted February 25, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 hours ago, siegi91 said: Yes, mankind history. The time when people had the time to write books instead of hunting and gathering. By the way, Genesis 1:1 does not address the beginning of God. It addresses the beginning of what He created. So, all things minus one. On a related note: what does it mean empty and watery? If it has water, it is not empty. Empty as in uninhabited, unoccupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted May 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted May 6, 2016 On 22/02/2016 at 8:47 AM, other one said: if you take the Bible literally one would have to believe the earth is a round flat disk with a dome of something as hard as steel and the sun and moon travels across just under this dome..... Oh, yeah, and God lives on top of the dome. If we take the Bible literally where it is to be taken literally, it proves beyond doubt the Earth is round. Isa. 40:22, It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: (Circle of the Earth) Heb. chug, Translated circle (v. 22); circuit, (Job 22:14); and compass (Pr. 8:27). This word in the Bible revealed that the Earth was round, long before men in general believed it was so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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