other one Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: Jesus saw satan fall from heaven to the earth: Luke 10 17The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name." 18And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.19"Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. KJV here "fall down" carries the meaning of "to be thrust down" in the Greek. The Disciples were just returning from their first trip and were all excited about being able to cast out demons. Jesus is speaking to them about getting too carried away with power. Reminding them that he saw Lucifer fall from his position and warning them as to what pride can do to you..... they they should just be glad their names are written in heaven..... That Satans name is no longer written in heaven and his future is set in stone so to speak..... it is not saying that he literally was thrown out of heaven at the first sending out of the Disciples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2016 56 minutes ago, other one said: The Disciples were just returning from their first trip and were all excited about being able to cast out demons. Jesus is speaking to them about getting too carried away with power. Reminding them that he saw Lucifer fall from his position and warning them as to what pride can do to you..... they they should just be glad their names are written in heaven..... That Satans name is no longer written in heaven and his future is set in stone so to speak..... it is not saying that he literally was thrown out of heaven at the first sending out of the Disciples. That is not what it says other one. It does not say he saw satan fall from his position. It says he saw satan fall from HEAVEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: That is not what it says other one. It does not say he saw satan fall from his position. It says he saw satan fall from HEAVEN. if you pull the verse out of the overall context I can see how you might think that, but if you take the whole of what he is saying it speaks of satans fall from pride and not his literal removal from heaven.... If you look at Revelation chapter 12 you see that at the time that he and his angels are thrown down to here he is very angry for he knows he has but a short time..... well John wrote that nearly 2,000 years ago so I have a problem with it speaking of that time period. It is yet to happen but could very well set off the trib period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2016 49 minutes ago, other one said: if you pull the verse out of the overall context I can see how you might think that, but if you take the whole of what he is saying it speaks of satans fall from pride and not his literal removal from heaven.... If you look at Revelation chapter 12 you see that at the time that he and his angels are thrown down to here he is very angry for he knows he has but a short time..... well John wrote that nearly 2,000 years ago so I have a problem with it speaking of that time period. It is yet to happen but could very well set off the trib period of time. That's not pulling it out of the overall context. And it is not yet to happen. It has already happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 hours ago, other one said: Might I suggest that he was removed from his duties at the throne, but not thrown out of heaven, at least the second heaven. He still has access to the Father to accuse us of all things. I don't think they have been thrown out of the second heaven until next year. If my "M" string physics studies are as I understand, time does not flow in the second and third heaven as it does here in our forth dimension..... when Satan and his followers are finally thrown into the fourth dimension with us, he enters time flow and knows his end is set..... and he will not be happy about it. Next year? Heaven has no time. It is eternity. Your talking dimensions? Time flow, where do you get dimensions, time flow and not being cast out of the second Heaven until next year. I don't know who you are listening to but you find nothing about this in the Bible. If you do I want the book, chapter and verses in which you find all this in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted February 9, 2016 On 11/29/2015 at 8:48 PM, MorningGlory said: Where did you get that, O.O.? I'm with you on this one sister, where in the world are you getting this garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Eternity is time. Time has no beginning or end. Created things are measured by time but time is not a construct of creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: other one, Jesus saw satan fall from heaven to the earth. I'm sorry but I think you've gotten so wrapped up in the demonic realm that at times you've been listening to the wrong voices and they are leading you astray. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2016 32 minutes ago, gdemoss said: Eternity is time. Time has no beginning or end. Created things are measured by time but time is not a construct of creation. No, eternity is not time. Time bagan. Time will end. Eternity is outside of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted February 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: No, eternity is not time. Time bagan. Time will end. Eternity is outside of time. According to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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