IF GODS WORD, IS TRUTH ?

[SINNERSAVED]

IF Gods word is truth , then why do people try to work around the truth ?

is it to justify something , to gain for them selves ?

is it that we are not being spiritually in tuned with God in the spirit ?

What is to gain when we are not in obedience with the truth of the word?

why would we not examine the word , as scripture interprets scripture for understanding ?

I have put out this topic, for the simple reason, that I my self , am un settled , that there is ignorance of scripture, that plainly ,

gives us truth , and for those that do not believe, that scripture is to be unfolded, by each word and for a appointed time  and date ,

for those that need to understand individually , and as  a whole, group, of people , for when we see in scripture God has kept things for the

revelation to come, then we see that we were not all to understand at one time, but over time, in the word of God and the filling of the oil in our lamps , we see that everything has its time and place, for we see the working of the lord, and we marvel, for we cannot see the debts of love He has for us,

but for those that reject the love and gift of salvation, will never be able to put truth together, we are not in darkness, that we are not able to comprehend ,

but we are of the light , and for by the word we bring light to others and into the world , to fulfill our part to the Lord God almighty to do His will , and not our will, for our selves are given into service, as a vessel to bring in the Good news,

so what is the good news ? it is the truth of the word, !inspired and holy , and given to us freely in the passion of the Christ ,

to have our cups overflow , and our strength given power, by the foundation of the rock that we stand  ,for the truth ,shall set you free !

for our selves are the of disciplined warriors ,in the word of truth , to the poor and the needy and those that need to hear the word of God, to the believer and to the lost, also , that in the end, there be no one with excuse, that was not given a chance to drink of the water that gives life abundantly how beautiful is the feet of those, that brings the Good news ,amen ...

[de1929]

On 12/30/2015 at 1:51 AM, SINNERSAVED said:

IF Gods word is truth , then why do people try to work around the truth ?

is it to justify something , to gain for them selves ?

is it that we are not being spiritually in tuned with God in the spirit ?

What is to gain when we are not in obedience with the truth of the word?

why would we not examine the word , as scripture interprets scripture for understanding ?

I have put out this topic, for the simple reason, that I my self , am un settled , that there is ignorance of scripture, that plainly ,

gives us truth , and for those that do not believe, that scripture is to be unfolded, by each word and for a appointed time  and date ,

for those that need to understand individually , and as  a whole, group, of people , for when we see in scripture God has kept things for the

revelation to come, then we see that we were not all to understand at one time, but over time, in the word of God and the filling of the oil in our lamps , we see that everything has its time and place, for we see the working of the lord, and we marvel, for we cannot see the debts of love He has for us,

but for those that reject the love and gift of salvation, will never be able to put truth together, we are not in darkness, that we are not able to comprehend ,

but we are of the light , and for by the word we bring light to others and into the world , to fulfill our part to the Lord God almighty to do His will , and not our will, for our selves are given into service, as a vessel to bring in the Good news,

so what is the good news ? it is the truth of the word, !inspired and holy , and given to us freely in the passion of the Christ ,

to have our cups overflow , and our strength given power, by the foundation of the rock that we stand  ,for the truth ,shall set you free !

for our selves are the of disciplined warriors ,in the word of truth , to the poor and the needy and those that need to hear the word of God, to the believer and to the lost, also , that in the end, there be no one with excuse, that was not given a chance to drink of the water that gives life abundantly how beautiful is the feet of those, that brings the Good news ,amen ...

we have fundamental problems here

are you aware that there are cessasionism and continualism mindset ? (see my footnote for wikis)

cessasionism believes sola scripture, only exegesis is accepted.
continualism believes Prima scriptura, because RHEMA added more insight on the top of existing exegesis.
Some people call it eisegesis

you cannot use cessationism thinking to validate continualist mindset. what you have is giving old wine to
new patch.
you cannot use continualist thinking to convince cessationism mindset. what you have is giving new wine to
old patch.

-- your question is below --
Your questio is about GOD's WORD... my question: what is GOD's word that you believe ? according to cessasionist or continualist ?

-- footnote --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessationism_versus_continuationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_scriptura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis
 

Edited January 19, 2016 by de1929

[SINNERSAVED]

4 hours ago, de1929 said:

we have fundamental problems here

are you aware that there are cessasionism and continualism mindset ? (see my footnote for wikis)

cessasionism believes sola scripture, only exegesis is accepted.
continualism believes Prima scriptura, because RHEMA added more insight on the top of existing exegesis.
Some people call it eisegesis

you cannot use cessationism thinking to validate continualist mindset. what you have is giving old wine to
new patch.
you cannot use continualist thinking to convince cessationism mindset. what you have is giving new wine to
old patch.

-- your question is below --
Your questio is about GOD's WORD... my question: what is GOD's word that you believe ? according to cessasionist or continualist ?

-- footnote --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessationism_versus_continuationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_scriptura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis
 

I don't get what you are saying sorry,

[*Zion*]

Me neither.  Someone bring out a dictionary and a theology 101 handbook, please

[de1929]

7 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said:

I don't get what you are saying sorry,

 

7 hours ago, *Zion* said:

Me neither.  Someone bring out a dictionary and a theology 101 handbook, please

I just answered 2 of you in 1 post

Imo, one of the keyword that grabbed my attention is this:  why would we not examine the word , as scripture interprets scripture for understanding ?

What do you mean scripture interprets scripture ? if i can get what do you mean, imo we can resolve most of other questions.

 

[Your closest friendnt]

On 19 January, 2016 at 6:18 PM, de1929 said:

 

I just answered 2 of you in 1 post

Imo, one of the keyword that grabbed my attention is this:  why would we not examine the word , as scripture interprets scripture for understanding ?

What do you mean scripture interprets scripture ? if i can get what do you mean, imo we can resolve most of other questions.

 

I would like to hear more from someone who has not given himself to be a rigitt unbented servant of a certain mindset. Someone who has his own objectivity.

[SINNERSAVED]

Gods truth is of spirit , of following God from the law, it is as  a school master , but yet it is not abolished, it is a teaching of life, to be fulfilled and to acknowledge , by the holy and mighty one, but we are not moved.

truth is the words of scripture ,to be of God guiding and talking to us, and to set us apart, for the work that is ahead, for we come to  Him ,

in sweet surrender, for following the law is ,not hard and burdensum,  ! but it is a delight, to those that meditate day and night,

 for all of my days I shall praise the lord on High and lift Him up for He has saved me, from the depths of my Sin, when I cry out He hears me, and when I am afraid He comforts ,me, the sweet sound of the word that brings sweet delight to my tongue, cleanses my soul, His blood washes me , white as snow, His laws are just , and His Grace is given, for the mercies and power of the cross, I will always hold in my mind, and my  path, I will follow Him, for He anoints my head with oil, and my cup over flows,

 surely the king of kings and lord of lords, yeshua, is my savior, and truth is given, and obedience is required, for He was crucified yet I am crucified with Him and yet I live, in Him , and He in me,   greater is He that is in me , then he that is in the world,

for I will praise Him each and every day , until I take that truth and the promises ,and walk with Him some day, blessed is all that seeks the lord, and finds Him,

Blessed is those that keeps His truth  and His words , and follows His laws, and lives on each and ever word, for the scriptures are alive, and the power and the glory of God is in them, and it brings life to the dead, and the lost, and so for all of my days ,shall I follow the one, that was able to save,

 I cannot by my self save, nor do anything to work for salvation, but I can follow and honor, the Father and the Son, and do as the bible instructs us, and to live my life holy and acceptable, in the ways of righteousness, for Sin,  has no more power over me, for the truth of the word and the power of God, has broken the bonds that held me, and so I am free, and in the name of yeshua, we are free,  indeed.

blessings and peace,

[Your closest friendnt]

33 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

Gods truth is of spirit , of following God from the law, it is as  a school master , but yet it is not abolished, it is a teaching of life, to be fulfilled and to acknowledge , by the holy and mighty one, but we are not moved.

truth is the words of scripture ,to be of God guiding and talking to us, and to set us apart, for the work that is ahead, for we come to  Him ,

in sweet surrender, for following the law is ,not hard and burdensum,  ! but it is a delight, to those that meditate day and night,

 for all of my days I shall praise the lord on High and lift Him up for He has saved me, from the depths of my Sin, when I cry out He hears me, and when I am afraid He comforts ,me, the sweet sound of the word that brings sweet delight to my tongue, cleanses my soul, His blood washes me , white as snow, His laws are just , and His Grace is given, for the mercies and power of the cross, I will always hold in my mind, and my  path, I will follow Him, for He anoints my head with oil, and my cup over flows,

 surely the king of kings and lord of lords, yeshua, is my savior, and truth is given, and obedience is required, for He was crucified yet I am crucified with Him and yet I live, in Him , and He in me,   greater is He that is in me , then he that is in the world,

for I will praise Him each and every day , until I take that truth and the promises ,and walk with Him some day, blessed is all that seeks the lord, and finds Him,

Blessed is those that keeps His truth  and His words , and follows His laws, and lives on each and ever word, for the scriptures are alive, and the power and the glory of God is in them, and it brings life to the dead, and the lost, and so for all of my days ,shall I follow the one, that was able to save,

 I cannot by my self save, nor do anything to work for salvation, but I can follow and honor, the Father and the Son, and do as the bible instructs us, and to live my life holy and acceptable, in the ways of righteousness, for Sin,  has no more power over me, for the truth of the word and the power of God, has broken the bonds that held me, and so I am free, and in the name of yeshua, we are free,  indeed.

blessings and peace,

I have a neibour who excels in good works, he is trying in a very suble way, without words to give notice of his religion.

I have not turned a blind eye to him and I wellcome his friendliness. He is talking about God, and he talks just like you, I read your post and remember what he said.

He is a Moslem and he talks just like you, I don't know why. 

[SINNERSAVED]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I have a neibour who excels in good works, he is trying in a very suble way, without words to give notice of his religion.

I have not turned a blind eye to him and I wellcome his friendliness. He is talking about God, and he talks just like you, I read your post and remember what he said.

He is a Moslem and he talks just like you, I don't know why. 

what does that mean, I don't understand if that's good, or bad, ? do you talk to Him, do you share Jesus with Him, or does, He talk about Jesus ?, I don't know what you mean by He talks just like me, ? could you explain, thank you

[Your closest friendnt]

3 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

what does that mean, I don't understand if that's good, or bad, ? do you talk to Him, do you share Jesus with Him, or does, He talk about Jesus ?, I don't know what you mean by He talks just like me, ? could you explain, thank you

He is a doer, he does the good works, he taks how God loves those who do not just say Lord, Lord, but the doers of his will.

And he talks how he loves God with 

His heart, mind and soul.

He is a Moslem.