JESUS - On earth in the Millennium? Questions to consider.

[Guest]

That's not what this topic is about. It is about Christ on Earth during the Millennium. Why are you so argumentative?

[simplejeff]

2 hours ago, Rick_Parker said:

Because one of the reasons that people give to GOD that we are so sinful is because HE left us alone here on Earth under the influence of Satan.

Did you say this ? 

and can we help people separate truth from lies ? show them the way of Yahweh / HIS WORD ?   ((concerning TODAY AND in the MILLENNIUM))

"but most people here and everywhere are still believing many lies."

If they can't tell the difference TODAY, they may not be here for the MILLENNIUM...

 

[MorningGlory]

In answer to your questions, Marilyn, the Bible clearly tell us that Jesus will rule the earth and Heaven during the Millenium.  But His throne will be here on earth.

Ephesians 1:10 - ...that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth - in Him.

Zechariah 14:16-19 - And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

Did you say this ? 

and can we help people separate truth from lies ? show them the way of Yahweh / HIS WORD ?   ((concerning TODAY AND in the MILLENNIUM))

"but most people here and everywhere are still believing many lies."

If they can't tell the difference TODAY, they may not be here for the MILLENNIUM...

 

Yes, I did, but I was talking about mankind in general, not Christians. Reread the OP.

[missmuffet]

Let's get a word from a ministry that is preaching the true literal word of God.

 

Question: "What is the purpose of the thousand-year reign of Christ?"

Answer: The Millennium (also known as the Millennial Kingdom) is the 1,000-year reign of Jesus after the Tribulation and before all the people of the world are sent to either heaven or hell. Jesus will reign as king over Israel as well as all the nations of the world (Isaiah 2:4; 42:1). The world will live in peace (Isaiah 11:6–9; 32:18), Satan will be bound (Revelation 20:1–3), and, at the beginning, everyone will worship God (Isaiah 2:2–3). The purpose of the 1,000-year reign is to fulfill promises God made to the world that cannot be fulfilled while Satan is free and humans have political authority. Some of these promises, called covenants, were given specifically to Israel. Others were given to Jesus, the nations of the world, and creation. All of these will be fulfilled during Jesus’ 1,000-year reign.

The Palestinian Covenant, also called the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 30:1-10)
God has already fulfilled the personal aspects of the Abrahamic Covenant; Abraham did go to the Promised Land, he did have many descendants, and he is the forefather of many nations. Several hundred years after Abraham, Joshua led the Israelites to claim ownership of the Promised Land. But Israel has never possessed the specific boundaries that God promised in Genesis 15:18–20 and Numbers 34:1-12. Not even Solomon ruled over this particular area (1 Kings 4:21–24). Although he did reign from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates, he did not hold the area from Mount Hor to Hazarenan (Numbers 34:7–9)—into present-day Lebanon and Syria. In addition, the covenant God made with Abraham was that he and his descendants would have the land for eternity (Genesis 13:15; 17:8; Ezekiel 16:60). The current Israeli state may be a step in this direction, but they still do not possess the boundaries God laid out.

The Davidic Covenant (2 Samuel 7)
God’s covenant with David was that his line would never die out and that David’s heir would sit on the throne of Israel forever (2 Samuel 7:16). Biblical scholars agree that Jesus is the fulfillment of this covenant—one of the reasons His genealogy is given for both His step-father (Matthew 1:1–17) and His mother (Luke 3:23–38). The Jews understood this when they laid down palm branches and their cloaks as Jesus rode into Jerusalem (Matthew 21:1–17). They expected Him to be a military/political leader that would liberate them from the Romans and make Israel a great nation again. But they didn’t understand the nature of Jesus’ work at the time was for the New Covenant, not the Davidic Covenant. The 1,000-year reign will be the beginning of Jesus’ eternal reign over Israel and the earth (Revelation 20:4, 6).

The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-34)
The work of the New Covenant—Jesus’ death and resurrection to reconcile hearts to God—has been accomplished. But we have not yet seen the complete fulfillment. Jeremiah 31:33 says, “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Ezekiel 36:28 gives more specifics: “You shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you shall be my people, and I will be your God.” Isaiah 59:20–21 explains that this covenant is possible because of the Redeemer, and the reconciliation He provides will last forever. This covenant does not mean that every Jew will be saved. But it does mean that Israel as a nation will worship their Messiah. The Old Testament prophets who spoke of this covenant, including Isaiah, Jeremiah, Hosea, and Ezekiel, all wrote that it will be fulfilled in the future. From their time on, Israel has yet to be an independent nation that worshiped its Messiah (Romans 9—11). They will be in the 1,000-year reign of Christ.

Other Promises
Those are the covenants God made with Israel that are to be fulfilled in Jesus’ 1,000-year reign, but the Bible lists other promises that will be fulfilled, too. God promised Jesus He will make His enemies a footstool, and that Jesus’ followers will worship Him freely (Psalm 100). God promised the nations of the world that they would live in peace with Jesus as their ruler (Daniel 7:11–14). And He promised creation that the curse would be lifted (Romans 8:18–23), animals and the earth would be restored to peace and prosperity (Isaiah 11:6–9; 32:13–15), and people would be freed from disease (Ezekiel 34:16). These, too, will be fulfilled during the 1,000-year reign.

The main purpose of Jesus’ 1,000-year reign is to fulfill the prophecies given to Israel and the promises made to Jesus, the nations, and the whole earth. God’s covenants were voluntary and one-sided. He promised He would bless Israel and restore the world in specific ways, and He will.

[simplejeff]

Well, here you are, in a subset of mankind in general,  .......   "asking for their opinions"   ....  why ? 

49 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:

Yes, I did, but I was talking about mankind in general, not Christians. Reread the OP.

Even the opinions of Christians, or those you consider to be Christians, is nothing to stand on.....

so then,  the opinions of 'flesh'/ 'mankind in general', do you really seek that ? 

Or just for the purpose of showing they're opposed to Yahweh, contrary to His Word, and not reliable ? ((potentially the best option))  .....   both now and in the millennium....

the point for the TITLE /op?/, Jesus IS here and now RELIABLE and FAITHFUL, while few around us are;

and in the millennium, Jesus IS here and always RELIABLE and FAITHFUL,

and more who are alive then will be also.  

But in every case, go by HIS WORD, TRUTH, from the FATHER as HE accomplishes and permits and gives.

"all men are liars" is a good starting point to understand/ receive Yahweh's Word- trust Yahweh, not men.

whatever anyone says, Yahweh is the giver of discernment, and says TEST before trusting to see if it is TRUTH.

This is still true in the millennium - anything opposed or contradicting Yahweh is false.((and will be punished ((or corrected)) ))

HIS WORD is the STANDARD.  HIS SPIRIT IS TRUTH, experientally, ALIVE !

((i.e. if you are always seeking, encouraging, and testifying of the TRUTH from Yahweh, well and good

- that is the point for everyone TODAY and forever,  and we are in agreement IN HIM))

[Ezra]

13 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Questions from Marilyn

 Why does Jesus rule physically on the earth since He has been given the authority `far above all,` in this age & the one to come? (Eph. 1: 20 – 22)

Adam was given dominion over all the earth. That dominion has now been given to the second Adam (Christ).

Why would the Lord rule from His `footstool`& not from His eternal throne? (Isa. 66: 1)

What makes you think that this is not true at one and the same time?

Why would the Lord leave His eternal throne, His seat of power in the highest heavens, leave His position as King of Heaven & rule from earth? (Dan. 4: 37)

He does not do that. He rules on earth as well as in Heaven. And Christ must establish the eternal Kingdom of God in earth as He originally planned.

 Why would the Lord rule over the universe, angelic hosts & the glorious realms above from this speck of dust? (Ps. 68: 17)

God chose this speck of dust for His own reasons. It is significant to Him.

Why would the Lord rule from this physical earth with all its frailties, when He has a glorious body made for the realms above? (Rev. 1: 13 – 18)

You are mistaken.  All frailties will be eliminated.

Why would sickness, death & rebellion etc exist on this earth if the Lord was here in person? (Isa. 65: 20   Zech. 14: 17 – 19)

Again, you are mistaken. That will not be the scenario.

Why would the Lord at the end of the Millennium be physically in Jerusalem, surrounded by Satan & the world`s armies? (Rev. 20: 7 – 9)

How do you know that this is exactly what will happen? Christ is not limited in any way.

 Marilyn, all we have are broad outlines of the Millennium. Projecting scenarios into that period would be unhelpful.

[Marilyn C]

Hi n2thelight,

Thank you for replying. Now that was a good scripture there bro, I believe (Zech. 14: 4) as it clearly shows that the Lord Jesus Christ has His feet upon the Mount of Olives.  This is the Lord coming in great power & great glory with His mighty angels.

`...the Son of Man comes in His glory, & all the holy angels with Him...` (Matt. 25: 31)

& `in righteousness He judges & makes war... he Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness & wrath of Almighty God.` (Rev. 19: 1 & 15)

Thus when the Lord Jesus Christ comes the wicked armies around Jerusalem will feel the force of Christ`s awesome power.

`Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, & their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.` (Zech. 14: 12)

The power of the one whose `countenance was like the sun shining in its strength.` (Rev. 1: 16)

Then to those whom He comes to deliver, Christ reveals Himself in His resplendent glory & majestic beauty. After judging the nations & setting up the rulership through Israel, the Lord Jesus Christ then returns to the highest position to rule `far above all,` as God`s word tells us.

`the Lord most High is awesome; He is King over all the earth. He will subdue the peoples under us, & the nations under our feet....God has gone UP with a shout, the Lord with the sound of the trumpet....` (Ps. 47: 2 – 5)

Marilyn.

 

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi sister,

`The earth is the Lord`s & all its fullness, the world & those who dwell therein.` (Ps. 24: 1)

God has never given away the earth or the people. Remember that He is omnipresent. Thus He has always been here on earth. The word `dwell` you are referring to brings out the sense of `abiding, to rest.` This we see is where God will establish His rule through Israel over the nations.

We do not see that it says the Lord Jesus Christ will physically be on earth for the duration of the millennium.

Marilyn.

 

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi WilliamL,

Yes I do believe that Jesus will be ruling over all realms. Yes He can `come & go` however I believe it is from His eternal throne in the highest heavens that He rules. It is for Israel to learn to rule through the Lord`s guidance & for mankind to choose to receive guidance & learning of God`s law.

` Many nations shall come & say, “Come & let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us of His ways, & we shall walk in His paths.” For out of Zion the law shall go forth, & the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.` (Micah 4: 2)

Marilyn.