Jesus` Kingship.

[Sister]

 

 

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God the Father - with the initial movement of the Father;  

God the Son - the administration of the Son;

God the Holy Spirit - and the direct agency of the Holy Spirit.

 

Marilyn

This is how it was worded for us.

1 John 5:7   For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
 

I have never thought of the Holy Ghost being God, but coming out of God, his spirit of truth, which is also "in the Word" that came out of God.

[*Zion*]

On 2/28/2016 at 1:00 AM, Marilyn C said:

JESUS ` KINGSHIP.

 

There is a sense in which Christ inherited the title `king` from His identifying Himself with the house of David & the tribe of Judah in the nation of Israel. Such connections, however, do by no means fully & adequately explain His kingly power & royal nature.

His kingly authority is underived, His kingly majesty unconferred, & His kingly glory unimparted on the basis of this world standards.

 

“My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now my kingdom is not from here.”

Pilate therefore said to him, “Are you a king then?” Jesus answered, “You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, & for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18: 36 & 37)

 

As we can just limit the Lord`s kingship to this earth I thought it would be good to share together of what we know in God`s word concerning Christ`s kingship over other realms.

So from scripture what other kingships has the Lord & over what other realms?

 

Marilyn.

 

Over everything, surely!  He has the Name above all names, and through Him all things were created.  His is Lord over and above all!  Hallelujah!!! 

[Ezra]

9 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

The Bible does indeed call Yeshua` the "Son of God"; but it NEVER calls Him "God the Son!" 

No. The Bible just calls Him God -- the mighty God.  That is even more powerful than "God the Son".  But you don't believe it, do you?

[Ezra]

9 hours ago, Sister said:

I have never thought of the Holy Ghost being God, but coming out of God, his spirit of truth, which is also "in the Word" that came out of God.

If the Holy Ghost were not God, then the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit would not be the unpardonable sin.  Think about it.

[Ezra]

14 hours ago, gdemoss said:

That sounds like stuartship to me where Jesus retains his authority while giving Satan dominion. The power resides with the Lord.  Thank you! 

Why would the "kingdom of darkness" be stewardship? God is light, and in Him is NO DARKNESS AT ALL.

[Retrobyter]

11 hours ago, Sister said:

 

 

Marilyn

This is how it was worded for us.

1 John 5:7   For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
 

I have never thought of the Holy Ghost being God, but coming out of God, his spirit of truth, which is also "in the Word" that came out of God.

Shalom, Sister.

Don't you know that those words were ADDED much later to the text?! Those words were NOT in the original manuscripts! According to the United Bible Society's Greek New Testament, that's a confident conclusion!

Iooannou A 5:7-8
7 Hoti treis eisin hoi marturountes,
8 to pneuma kai to hudoor kai to haima⁴, kai hoi threis eis to en eisin.

⁴7-8 {A} marturountes, 8 to pneuma kai to hudoor kai to haima Alef A B K P (Psi marturousin) 048 049 056 0142 33 81 88^txt 104 181 326 330 436 451 614 630 945 1241 1505 1739 1877 1881 2127 2412 2492 2495 Byz Lect l^598m it^ar vg^ww syr^{p, h} cop^{sa, bo} arm eth arab slav Irenaeus Clement Tertullian Hippolytus Origen Cyprian Dionysius Hilary Lucifer Athanasius Basil Faustinus Gregory-Nazianzus Ambrose Didymus Epiphanius Chrysostom Jerome Augustine Cyril // marurountes en too ouranoo, ho pateer ho logos kai to hagion pneuma, kai houtoi hoi treis hen eisin. 8 kai treis eisin hoi marturountes en tee gee, to pneuma kai to hudoor kai to haima 221^mg 2318 (629 ... apo tou ouranou ... treis eis to hen ... apo tees gees; 61 629 omit the following kai hoi treis ... eisin; 61 88^mg 429^mg 629 636^mg 918 with other minor variant readings) (it^m) vg^cl // testimonium dicunt (or: dant) in terra, spiritus (or: spiritus et) aqua et sanguis, et hi tres uuum [sic] sunt in Christo Iesu. 8 et tres sunt, qui testimonium dicunt in caelo, pater, verbum et spiritus (it^{c, dem, div}omit: in Christo Iesu) it^{m, p} (it^qomit: et hi tres unum sunt in Christo Iesu) vg^mss Varimadum Priscillian Cassian Ps-Vigilius mss^{acc. to Victor-Vita} Ps-Athanasius Fulgentius Ansbert

UBS The Greek New Testament

In the INTRODUCTION under the heading "THE TEXTUAL APPARATUS" and point 1, "The Evaluation of Evidence for the Text," the editors write:

By means of the letters A, B, C, and D, enclosed within "braces" { } at the beginning of each set of textual variants, the Committee has sought to indicate the relative degree of certainty, arrived at on the basis of internal considerations as well as of external evidence, for the reading adopted as the text. The letter A signifies that the text is virtually certain, while B indicates that there is some degree of doubt. The letter C means that there is a considerable degree of doubt whether the text or the apparatus contains the superior reading, while D shows that there is a very high degree of doubt concerning the reading selected for the text.

So, it's "virtually certain" that the words "in the heaven, the Father the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. (8) and there are three that bear witness in the earth" did not exist in the original text. They were ADDED after the fact! And, apparently they were added sometime after the fourteenth century, based on the manuscripts listed!

[Sister]

5 hours ago, Ezra said:

If the Holy Ghost were not God, then the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit would not be the unpardonable sin.  Think about it.

Ezra

The Holy Ghost is "of" God, there is no doubt, because there is a purpose.

Proverbs 1:23   Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

 

1 John 5:6   This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
 

[Ezra]

34 minutes ago, Sister said:

Ezra

The Holy Ghost is "of" God, there is no doubt, because there is a purpose.

Sister,

Why don't you honestly accept the fact that the Holy Ghost is God? Or do I need to go into all the Scriptures to confirm that?

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, Retrobyter said:

Don't you know that those words were ADDED much later to the text?! Those words were NOT in the original manuscripts! According to the United Bible Society's Greek New Testament, that's a confident conclusion!

And if the UBS text is based on corrupt manuscripts (which is a fact), then you don't have a leg to stand on.  Actually 1 John 5:7 has plenty of external and internal evidence for its authenticity.  Because its removal made no grammatical or spiritual sense, that section of Scripture was altered so that something would make sense (which it still does not).

[Marilyn C]

The King of Glory.

 

`Lift up your heads, O you gates! And be lifted up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong & mighty, The Lord mighty in battle.

Lift up your heads, O you gates! And lift them up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The Lords of Hosts, He is the King of glory.` (Ps. 24: 7 – 10)

 

How wonderful that God has given us this picture of the stateliest of triumphant entries, the entry of the kingliest sovereign Victor into the eternal realms. Then in Psalm 68 we are shown the ascension glory, & the procession into the sanctuary of the holiest.

 

`The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of thousands;....you have ascended on high, You have led captivity captive;....

They have seen your procession, O God, the procession of My God, My King into the sanctuary;....Oh, sing praises to the Lord, to Him who rides on the heaven of heavens, which were of old!.......O God, You are more awesome than your holy places.` (Ps. 68: 17, 18, 24, 32, 33, 35)

 

`Thy glory is above the heavens` is repeated three times in the Psalms. Here the King of Glory ascends the throne of the heavens at the utmost pinnacle of power. Glory is the crowing diadem of all the attributes of deity. Such as –

 

`Holiness, righteousness, faithfulness, goodness, graciousness, loving-kindness,.....`

 

 God`s word teach us that all these & more are virtues that are glory crowned. Presiding in kingly dignity over all these is the King of Glory.

 

In Psalm 24 we see the celestial glory when the heads of the gates of heavenly portals comes into sight & the spiritual hosts within come into view. The escort is mentioned in Ps. 68: 17. What an entourage! And at the very centre of the circle of celebrities, coronated in great majesty sits the King of Glory. His glory extends, expands, & encompasses in every way. He alone is worthy of this highest station, King of Glory.

 

Never before has there been anyone who has had such close relationship of kinship with mankind, who has ascended to such heights of immortality in kingship to reign over all. How wonderful to meditate upon His personal love for the sons of men, & that He is now in preeminent lordship in heavenly majesty uniting all under one sceptre.

 

Both Paul & John speak of Christ as the glory, while James refers to Him as the `Lord of Glory.` (James 2: 1)  This indicates that He not only reigns in authority as King, but that He administers also as Lord. In both these supreme offices, the superlatives are used in the New Testament, where He is declared King of kings & Lord of lords, & this pertains to the highest & holiest sphere, the Heaven of heavens.

 

Marilyn.