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Why were we created?

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Super Jew,

Free Will is illusionary. The presence of evil is simply God allowing a very limited free reign of man. Even our thoughts are directed by certain things. I cannot think like someone from India because I different expiriences than them. When its all boiled down, Free Will is non-existant. What God has not predestined nature has.

Well I can't agree with you there. When God first created mankind, He gave him a brain to make decisions with, if He had not then man would be a robot. It was his own choice to eat from the wrong tree.

Rev4:11, Thou art worthy O Lord to receieve glory and honour and power for thou hast created all things and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

So from that I believe we were created to glorify and to worship HIM. Now you can't argue any differently with what the word says,

be blessed,

eric.

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The key to knowing our purpose is understanding our/your relationship with him. Our Father is just what he says he is, our Father. Being his children, for what purpose do you think we were brought into being? Slaves? To serve a master? How about pets? To entertain him when he gets lonely? I don't think so.

We are his children which he brought into being out of love. A love that is perfect and in such abundance neither time nor space can contain or stifle. We have a Father that loves us, and those that are his children love him. Our Father expects us to behave ourselves and to do what makes us happy that is not against the rules. Pretty simple.

Forgive me S.J. my brother, but I must disagree on this:

Free Will is illusionary. The presence of evil is simply God allowing a very limited free reign of man. Even our thoughts are directed by certain things. I cannot think like someone from India because I different expiriences than them. When its all boiled down, Free Will is non-existant. What God has not predestined nature has.

Free will is essential in our relationship with Our Father. What Glory is there to his name what is not done by will? What glory is there to him in that which is done in fear?

Romans 12:2

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Ephesians 2:10 says we were created to do good works for God.

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That only explains our creation in Christ, not the purpose for being created to begin with. It is dealing with our spiritual rebirth. It simply means "molded" into Christ. Why would God create us to do His works? Why would that be the primary reason? Again, that is useless. It all boils down to God wanting to demonstrate His love...

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Mark 16:15 says we are to go and preach the Gospel.

2 Corinthians 5 something says we have been given the ministry of reconcilation.

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Super Jew,

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You've wasted time chasing this rabit trail. Say all you want about Free Will, but do so in another topic. If you want to actually deal with the issue of love, be my guest (as you've really avoided it). Any further post concerning Free Will will not warrant a response from me.

That's a bit terse, isn't it mate. Surely others are allowed to voice their opinion on "free will". After all you started this thread on Why were we created, or suchlike. Well creation does involve "free will" so what's your problem. Are we not allowed to voice our opinion or do we have to take your word for everything.

YIC,

eric.

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Super Jew,

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You've wasted time chasing this rabit trail. Say all you want about Free Will, but do so in another topic. If you want to actually deal with the issue of love, be my guest (as you've really avoided it). Any further post concerning Free Will will not warrant a response from me.

That's a bit terse, isn't it mate. Surely others are allowed to voice their opinion on "free will". After all you started this thread on Why were we created, or suchlike. Well creation does involve "free will" so what's your problem. Are we not allowed to voice our opinion or do we have to take your word for everything.

YIC,

eric.

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I agree with you. Some people just don't like people questionig or challenging their words or opinions or beliefs. I find it to be true on alot of other threads!

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Psalms 54:6

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Psalms 54:6
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S.J.

Sorry to give the impression that I was trying to hijack your thread,mate, How stupid of me. I should have realised that you are always right, even if I do happen to disagree. I'll just have to go back ignoring your posts.

cheers,

eric.

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There you go eric, have it your way. Enjoy your debate on free will.

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Sorry Tess.

I believe that with without free will we have no purpose. Again I ask, what glory does our Father receive in worship that is done our of fear or requirement? Surely he expects us to fear and respect him as any father does. But is not our love for him that much more precious when it is by choice?

We are made in our Fathers image. Even though a statue made in his image would bring him glory could it return love? I believe we are alive to not only bring glory to him, but to return his love.

This question is one we should all pray about. This question seems akin to a child asking their father, "daddy, why is the sky blue?".

2 Timothy 1:9

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