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1 minute ago, shiloh357 said:

   And yet Christians are dumbfounded why Jews don't want to be like the people that hate them.

Yes, thank you.

Richard Wurmbrand, a Jew who was saved in spite of christendom, pointed that out very clearly.

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8 minutes ago, Joline said:

Baloney Shiloh.....................Orthodox Judaism admits they are from the Pharisees and that is where oral law comes from. For crying out loud Shiloh, they quote them all the time.

The Pharisees were an extremly corrupt bunch. And they lost most of their popularity because of John the Baptist.

 

Yes, the kernel of modern Judaism was the Pharisees as the Pharisees were the only religious sect that survived the Temple.   But modern Judaism isn't defined by the Orthodox.  Judaism isn't a monolith and even modern Orthodox Judaism isn't "Pharisaism."  Judaism has undergone massive adjustments and changes and even the Oral law isn't the same today as it was 2,000 years ago.   There are enough changes and added groups within modern Judaism to put to death any claim that moder Judaism is Pharisaism.   It isn't.  

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6 minutes ago, Ogner said:

I have never seen anyone who choose to reject Jesus as Savior because Hitler was allegedly a "Christian".

No one has.


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Only from what's been in the news :  what about that superior race that still carry on with the same principles as the nazis did/ do . ? They believe

they are right, they believe they are christian,  for the same reason they believed it during wwii and more since then ?   Therefore, they refuse to repent,

yet they still truly believe they are christian, same as h**ler, and the churches that actively supported him.

4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

No one has.

 


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9 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

I did not say that the ONLY reason they accept Hitler was because Hitler was a Christian.  I listed several other reasons that you have ignored.

Other reasons like this one


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16 minutes ago, LeavesSeeds said:

Yes, thank you.

Richard Wurmbrand, a Jew who was saved in spite of christendom, pointed that out very clearly.

While I have not read anything by Wurmbrand, that is the general experience of almost every Jewish person who comes to believe on Jesus.

When I accepted Jesus, it was because God drew me to read the NT. Once I was convinced and believed Jesus was the Messiah and Savior, I did not want to go to any church because history and personal experience had taught me that many Gentiles hated the Jewish people. The more religious, the more likely the Gentiles hated Jewish people.

Jewish people know little to nothing about Christianity other then Christians have called Jewish people Christ-killers and abused or killed Jewish people. Jewish people know nothing about denominations as it is not a Jewish concept. So to a Jewish person, Christianity is Christianity with no divisions. Jewish people do not read the NT, but based on over 1000 years of persecution done in Jesus name, it is assumed that the 'Gentile bible'/NT must be antisemitic or why would Christianity of so many different countries over hundreds of years, persecuted Jewish people in Jesus name?  

Shiloh is correct. 


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Why did you ask ?  Did you know already ?  Did you find out ?

22 hours ago, Ogner said:

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Question: Why to search for faith if the Jews do not believe in Jesus because of God?......

Question:  If the Jews do not believe in Jesus because of God. Why do they have no excuse for their sin?

(1) Why search for faith ?  No reason. (Did you search for faith ? ) .

(2) No one has an excuse for their sin,  Jew or gentile.   (do you have an excuse you've used in the past ? )


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Yes, very good and thank God for your testimony, and Many who have gotten saved and seen the light and had the veil removed are correct.  You, me, shiloh, wurmbrand and thousands of others. (maybe even hundreds of thousands, or even millions..... GOD KNOWS! YEAH! :) )

2 minutes ago, Qnts2 said:

While I have not read anything by Wurmbrand, that is the general experience of almost every Jewish person who comes to believe on Jesus.

When I accepted Jesus, it was because God drew me to read the NT. Once I was convinced and believed Jesus was the Messiah and Savior, I did not want to go to any church because history and personal experience had taught me that many Gentiles hated the Jewish people. The more religious, the more likely the Gentiles hated Jewish people.

Jewish people know little to nothing about Christianity other then Christians have called Jewish people Christ-killers and abused or killed Jewish people. Jewish people know nothing about denominations as it is not a Jewish concept. So to a Jewish person, Christianity is Christianity with no divisions. Jewish people do not read the NT, but based on over 1000 years of persecution done in Jesus name, it is assumed that the 'Gentile bible'/NT must be antisemitic or why would Christianity of so many different countries over hundreds of years, persecuted Jewish people in Jesus name?  

 

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56 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Yes, the kernel of modern Judaism was the Pharisees as the Pharisees were the only religious sect that survived the Temple.  

Thank you. And those of their  disciples were they which the Church were dealing with.........................................No different than John the Baptist, Jesus or Paul.

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1 hour ago, LeavesSeeds said:

Yes, thank you.

Richard Wurmbrand, a Jew who was saved in spite of christendom, pointed that out very clearly.

And vice versa, this can go on and on and on and on. More division

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