Ezra Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2016 35 minutes ago, Ogner said: This is speculation and stereotypes. How do you know she called Jesus a righteous? She might mean Barabbas. The Jews chose Barabbas and she might mean Barabbas. The choice between Jesus or Barabbas is not choice between righteous or sinner. it's a question: "Who do you think is a righteous or a sinner, Jesus or Barabbas?" Ogner, Don't look for complications when there are none. Pilate's wife was not foolish to call a criminal "righteous". No one denied that Barabbas was a criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2016 You are in error as Pilate's wife did not ask for Barrabas to be released. I hope you will prayerfully take the time to study the scriptures more in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,281 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,501 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Ogner you are new to the faith aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Ogner said: John 19:12, "And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: " Pilate chose to release Jesus before that his wife sent unto him. And the Jews understood this.That's why they said, "but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar." Do you think, Pilate's wife after that still doesn't get it? Or do you say that she chose to destroy Jesus but Pilate chose differently? I think that Pilates wife was trying to warn him. Was it possible he could have reversed him decision and have Jesus released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Ezra said: Ogner, Don't look for complications when there are none. Pilate's wife was not foolish to call a criminal "righteous". No one denied that Barabbas was a criminal. The Jews chose Barabbas. That means they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, other one said: so you are saying that Pilot's wife asked him to kill an innocent man........ really? I would think you might want to take a course in Greek before trying to change the Bible using strongs references. How do you know she called Jesus a righteous? She might mean Barabbas. so you are saying that the Jews asked him to kill an innocent man........ really? The Jews chose Barabbas and she might mean Barabbas. The choice between Jesus or Barabbas is not choice between righteous or sinner. it's a question: "Who do you think is a righteous or a sinner, Jesus or Barabbas?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Openly Curious said: You are in error as Pilate's wife did not ask for Barrabas to be released. I hope you will prayerfully take the time to study the scriptures more in depth. Your interpretation is based upon translation from Greek into English. If the Greek word "δὲ" is translated as "also". That means Pilate's wife to asked for Barabbas. You cannot prove what your translation is correct to your interpretation of your translation. I hope you will prayerfully take the time to study the scriptures more in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, enoob57 said: Ogner you are new to the faith aren't you? You're here to talk about me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I feel sure that she asked for Jesus. She warned her husband not to have anything to do with this righteous man. I think too she might have been a secret believer. That is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted June 6, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 4 hours ago, enoob57 said: I already expressed this in my previous posts... Mt 1:19 Mt 27:19 Mk 6:20 20 For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly. Ac 10:22 This is what Pilot's wife meant about Jesus saying " Have thou nothing to do with that just man:" Now back to the question I asked you do you wish to condemn just men? So the answer is she did not wish to condemn Jesus... Her asking for Barabbas was condemning Jesus to the cross... that is why the 'but' is there the Pharisees did wish to condemn Jesus to the cross... Love, Steven She nor anyone else would want a just man to suffer death on a cross verses the Pharisee who did! How do you know she called Jesus a righteous? She might mean Barabbas. The Jews chose Barabbas and she might mean Barabbas. "She nor anyone else would want a just man to suffer death on a cross" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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