Prepare for Persecution

[forrestkc]

Grace to you,

Forrest,

So you place more faith in the Government than you do the Church of Jesus Christ?

Peace,

Dave

No, and thats exactly why I think its best not to mix the two.

Grace to you,

Yet you hold more contempt for the leaders of the Lords Church than you do the very Government that persecutes the Lords Church?

Granted I agree that if the Church would get her House in order that the Government would follow.

1Pe 4:17

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

If the Church would lead a general call for repentance rather than the opposite message that no harm shall befall herself as she sits as Queen. Then we could begin to pray and the Lord would hear from heaven and heal our Land and Nation.

However we must Love what it is that God Loves and God Loves His Church. So much so that He will chasten and rebuke her.

Peace,

Dave

I don't hold more contempt for leaders of the Christian Church though. Generally, but not always, the common thread among corrupt church leaders is that most of them got entangled in political agendas and sought power and influence in church. All the more reason why its best to keep them separate.

That said, most Christian leaders are decent people. Most government leaders are decent people.

[forrestkc]

By all means, let us keep the teachings of He Who is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE out of our government!

The government will be MUCH BETTER run by secular men, and for secular ends! WE MUST NEVER, EVER ALLOW CHRISTIANITY TO BE OF INFLUENCE THERE! Imagine how dreadful it would be if our government were ACTIVELY CHRISTIAN!!!

Can anyone else hear a wolf in sheep's clothing in such arguments? Is it even thinkable that anyone who knows the Lord--or even has a SHRED of moral decency--could make such arguments? No. That friends, is the voice which will take us to the SAME FATE as the German Jews of the Generation that did not pay heed to the signs of the times in 1926! That is the voice that will have us silenced. That is the voice that will have us jailed. That is the voice that will have us and our children and grandchildren killed!

THAT friends, is the very voice of the anti-Christ, and all too often Christians listen to it.........

I never said that the government should be ran by secular men. I said that the government should not be used as a vehicle to promote, endorse or compel religious beliefs. You use Nazi Germany as an example. Well, thats a good example of how a government can use religion as a propaganda tool. Hitler hardly ever gave a speech where he did not quote scripture. You can take one thing to the bank, the anti-Christ will not be for a separation of church and state.

[forrestkc]

#2 You're not getting it. Yes it is legal to bring your bible to work. The point is: My husband was told he could not bring his Bible to work. Though that should not happen, does not mean it does not happen.

That is not persecution though. Especially considering that the law is on your side.

[Leonard]

By all means, let us keep the teachings of He Who is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE out of our government!

The government will be MUCH BETTER run by secular men, and for secular ends! WE MUST NEVER, EVER ALLOW CHRISTIANITY TO BE OF INFLUENCE THERE! Imagine how dreadful it would be if our government were ACTIVELY CHRISTIAN!!!

Can anyone else hear a wolf in sheep's clothing in such arguments? Is it even thinkable that anyone who knows the Lord--or even has a SHRED of moral decency--could make such arguments? No. That friends, is the voice which will take us to the SAME FATE as the German Jews of the Generation that did not pay heed to the signs of the times in 1926! That is the voice that will have us silenced. That is the voice that will have us jailed. That is the voice that will have us and our children and grandchildren killed!

THAT friends, is the very voice of the anti-Christ, and all too often Christians listen to it.........

I never said that the government should be ran by secular men. I said that the government should not be used as a vehicle to promote, endorse or compel religious beliefs. You use Nazi Germany as an example. Well, thats a good example of how a government can use religion as a propaganda tool. Hitler hardly ever gave a speech where he did not quote scripture. You can take one thing to the bank, the anti-Christ will not be for a separation of church and state.

Again; I never mentioned a single name. All I did was 'throw a shoe out there.' YOU can put that shoe on whoever YOU think it fits best......