The Rapture vs The Day of the LORD

[Ezra]

3 hours ago, Serving said:

Sorry bro, but whoever thought this up really did a bad job of it 'caus I just sunk that boat in under 2 minutes !!

Actually it is you who sunk your own boat.  It has been pointed out in several posts that 2 Thess 2:2 should state "the day of the Lord".  But since you are so eager to look for a "bad job" you failed to read any of that.  Now I call that a bad job.

[Serving]

2 hours ago, Ezra said:

Actually it is you who sunk your own boat.  It has been pointed out in several posts that 2 Thess 2:2 should state "the day of the Lord".  But since you are so eager to look for a "bad job" you failed to read any of that.  Now I call that a bad job.

Of which points i disagree with straight up, so no, i stand by my statement.

You know, there was never division when it came to the written word of God until those two godless charlatans started the whole translation game for profit thing and look where we are today .. over 150 (?) contradictory translations and counting .. yeah, nah, great work there guys .. Devils advocate if there ever was !!!

Here's the only usage of "day of Christ" in the KJV New Testament by the way :

Philippians 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;

Philippians 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Why not be consistent and just change all of them huh?

Oh wait, any change must serve an agenda first right? God forbid they change one that seems to agree with them right .. Silly me.

 

[Montana Marv]

19 hours ago, Serving said:

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Ezra, look at this please and really think about it :

2 Thessalonians 2:2-5 

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

If the day of Christ is a "Day of blessings" as you put it .. and .. is different to the "Day of the LORD" somehow .. then please explain this .. 

Q : Why would the brethren be "shaken in mind" and "troubled" that the day of Christ "were at hand" if it were a "day of blessings" ??

See the contradiction ?

Sorry bro, but whoever thought this up really did a bad job of it 'caus I just sunk that boat in under 2 minutes !!

 

They thought they had missed 'the day of Christ '. That is why they were troubled.

[Marcus O'Reillius]

14 hours ago, Serving said:

Of which points i disagree with straight up, so no, i stand by my statement.

You know, there was never division when it came to the written word of God until those two godless charlatans started the whole translation game for profit thing and look where we are today .. over 150 (?) contradictory translations and counting .. yeah, nah, great work there guys .. Devils advocate if there ever was !!!

Here's the only usage of "day of Christ" in the KJV New Testament by the way :

Philippians 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;

Philippians 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Why not be consistent and just change all of them huh?

Oh wait, any change must serve an agenda first right? God forbid they change one that seems to agree with them right .. Silly me.

 

The Day of Christ: when they are gathered up.

Same as Mt 24:31, which is preceded by the "sun/moon/star event" of the Day of the Lord.

And really, there are more than just two people who prefer other textual sources for the underlying Greek.  It is no deviltry.  It is an honest attempt to use the best, and oldest sources, to help reconstruct the original manuscript.  What we have now, wasn't available 405 years ago.

[Serving]

19 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

They thought they had missed 'the day of Christ '. That is why they were troubled.

MM, plainly speaking now, that assumption is very easy to debunk ..

The text itself is very clear .. look again : 

2 Thessalonians 2:2-5 

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

They were troubled of something they thought was SOON to come, that was AT HAND .. NOT that they "missed something".

 

So you guys are still left with a dilemma .. and going by 2 Thess above, you pre-tribbers now need to address this :   

Q : WHY would the brethren be troubled at the thought that the Day of Christ was at hand?