angels4u Posted December 17, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 hours ago, 7thseal said: Following the head of the body.... not the body trying to relocate the head. Body of Christ, there's only one way for the body to work proper. Amen Jesus is our example ! Ephesians 5:1-2 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7thseal Posted December 18, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 6:58 PM, angels4u said: Amen Jesus is our example ! Ephesians 5:1-2 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. Glory to Jesus forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted December 24, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 24, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 2:26 PM, 7thseal said: On 6/15/2016 at 3:00 PM, angels4u said: What Is Christian Unity? Notice the question is fairly often asked, yet almost never seen. On 12/16/2016 at 2:26 PM, 7thseal said: Following the head of the body.... not the body trying to relocate the head. Body of Christ, there's only one way for the body to work proper. Notice the body of Christ - Living Stones - Abiding in HIM, ARE ALWAYS in union with HIM - they cannot not be, any more than a foot or a hand can live on its own. On 12/16/2016 at 6:58 PM, angels4u said: Amen Jesus is our example ! Ephesians 5:1-2 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. Be becoming like little infants (or children). How ? By choice, (choose TODAY who to serve) and By seeking YHWH'S KINGDOM always, (seek ye first the kingdom of YHWH) and by being born again, and all this by YHWH'S accomplishment - not by the will of man, nor by the will of flesh, nor by [man's] blood,,,, i.e. > 'Not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh. nor of the will of man, but of YHWH' Thus the body (in union always, with Y'SHUA) is of YHWH , HIS WILL, HIS PURPOSE, HIS PLAN, HIS DOING, HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT, and is rarely seen or accepted by men. (as stated plainly in Revelation, Galatians, et al ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7thseal Posted December 25, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 25, 2016 On 12/23/2016 at 8:59 PM, simplejeff said: Thus the body (in union always, with Y'SHUA) is of YHWH , HIS WILL, HIS PURPOSE, HIS PLAN, HIS DOING, HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT, and is rarely seen or accepted by men. (as stated plainly in Revelation, Galatians, et al ) So the early church never had any problems (choices?) God leads us into truth, never has He forced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted December 26, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2016 5 hours ago, 7thseal said: So the early church never had any problems (choices?).. .. .. This doesn't follow from what you quoted, and I don't know why you think the early church never had any problems from anything earlier in the thread or wherever. i.e. can you quote wherever you got that , and connect the dots for me ? (I don't want to guess at this point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted December 26, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2016 What is Christian Unity? Hmmmm.... I'll tell you what it is not. It is not the 30-50 thousand plus different Protestant/Non-Denominational sects we have today, with new ones being formed each year. Each one of these denominations are certain that they are the only group that understands God's revelation, and that no one else in the last 2,000 years has found the true teaching of Jesus. In these sects taken all together or individually, there is no unity because there is no common teaching and ruling authority to which members must submit. Hence, there is no bond of unity. All the sects together do not form one society. They differ widely and marvelously in faith, and are independent of each other. Each sect taken by itself has no unity. It would seem the members of these sects do not know what to believe, and in following the principle of private judgment they have lost the very principle of unity. In ruling they have no unity. The rule of the leaders in each sect is little respected, easily rejected, and advisory rather than a legislative, judicial and coactive power. Such must be the type of the only possible leadership or rule which is left them, for the members of each sect guide themselves, not by what the rulers say or direct, but only by their own private judgment. This is the foundation of Protestantism and renders obedience to authority, and even the very existence of authority, impossible. If each individual can judge what he is to believe, an how he is to guide himself according to those individual beliefs, how can any central authority direct individual beliefs, how can any central authority direct individual? Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is ONE BODY, AND ONE SPIRIT even as ye are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism, etc.---Eph. 4-3 to 5-3: The Church of Christ Is and must be only ONE (Rom. 12:5, 1Cor.10:17, 12:13. I'll end this with a couple of quotes that are pertinent. "The Protestant Reformation resulted in the continuous division of churches over the interpretation of Scripture, each new denomination insisting on its own as authentic. But of course, since they all contradict each other, they can’t all be correct. The divisions continue to this day—thousands of them. If this is reformation, I’d hate to see chaos!"------Fr. Vincent Serpa And.... "There is nothing more serious than the sacrilege of schism because there is no just cause for severing the unity of the Church."------St. Augustine Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted December 26, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2016 There is little visible Christian on earth today. That which is false predominates, everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 26, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,184 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,460 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Unity is Scripture undefiled... when one holds that with another they become one with The Word of God... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted December 26, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Hoddie said: What is Christian Unity? Hmmmm.... I'll tell you what it is not. It is not the 30-50 thousand plus different Protestant/Non-Denominational sects we have today, with new ones being formed each year. This claim about 30-50,000 sects is pure baloney. If you drop the last three zeros, there are perhaps 30-50 Christian groups which are distinct from each other. What usually gets omitted is that the EOC and the RCC allowed the corruption of Bible Christianity through "Holy Tradition". While the EOC continued under the Byzantine Empire (and we don't hear much about the errors of the EOC), the RCC took control of Europe and the Americas. Therefore the Reformation was necessary, but rather than reform itself, the RCC mounted a Counter-Reformation to entrench its false doctrines and practices. This is all nicely laid out in the Council of Trent. Christian unity can only be around Bible Christianity, the true Gospel, and the true Christ. To expect any visible unity when Christendom has generally become apostate is quite unrealistic. The RCC has been trying for decades to bring all Christians under the umbrella of the Vatican, but it ain't gonna happen. In the meantime, God is opening the eyes of many to the truth and bringing them to salvation. The lack of unity of doctrine is illustrated on this forum (as well as other Christian forums). You will rarely get agreement on any discussion about Bible truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted December 26, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 26, 2016 27 minutes ago, Ezra said: The lack of unity of doctrine is illustrated on this forum (as well as other Christian forums). You will rarely get agreement on any discussion about Bible truth. A few have asked about unity, and how to find it. This is a good and proper pursuit, when seeking YHWH'S KINGDOM. True, it is not found in the forum, or in the visible churches or groups. (they are too far affected in the world to have true unity). The only place to see is first and foremost in Scripture, as described by YHWH in HIS WORD that HE guards. There can be seen what unity in TRUTH, in Y'SHUA, is. Most people never get to see this is their lives. (how many people all over the earth, world wide, ever got to see and watch NOAH and his family do you think ? ) . LIkewise, how many converts did LOT make in sodom and gomorrah ? ? OH, the outlook is not that impossible today, as it was then. But it may be just as rare to find a righteous man. (someone calulated about 2 or 3 % tops; that might be accurate, but I think it is generous on purpose (as love hopes for the best) ) . So for those seeking unity, remember first you must find and seek the KINGDOM OF YHWH, as YHWH describes in HIS WORD. (THE BIBLE). Everyone else will be deceived on earth, including when they think they find unity, it being a false unity allowed by YHWH, again as described by YHWH in HIS WORD. How then can anyone find unity in Y'SHUA (JESUS) ? Simple, really. How is any one born again ? (not by human will or desire or ability at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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