Mystery of Noah's Flood

[Seve]

2 hours ago, FresnoJoe said:

Welcome Beloved~! Thank You, This Is One Interesting Thread

Noah was 600 years old when the flood came to the earth. Noah, his sons, his wife, and his sons' wives went into the ship to escape the floodwaters. Clean and unclean animals, birds, and creatures that crawl on the ground came to Noah to go into the ship in pairs (a male and female of each) as God had commanded Noah. Seven days later the flood came on the earth. On the seventeenth day of the second month of the six hundredth year of Noah's life, all the deep springs burst open. The sky opened, and rain came pouring down on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights.

On that same day Noah and his sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, as well as Noah's wife and his three daughters-in-law went into the ship. They had with them every type of wild animal, every type of domestic animal, every type of creature that crawls on the earth, and every type of bird (every creature with wings). A pair of every living, breathing animal came to Noah to go into the ship. A male and a female of every animal went in as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD closed the door behind them. Genesis 7:6-16 (GOD'S WORD® Translation)

And That Was One Fast Drain

The flood continued for 40 days on the earth. The water increased and lifted the ship so that it rose high above the ground. As the water rose and became very deep, the ship floated on top of the water. The water rose very high above the earth. It covered all the high mountains everywhere under the sky. It rose 23 feet above the mountaintops. Every creature that crawls on the earth died, including birds, domestic and wild animals, and everything that swarms over the earth, along with every human. Everything on dry land (every living, breathing creature) died. Every living creature on the face of the earth was wiped out. Humans, domestic animals, crawling creatures, and birds were wiped off the earth. Only Noah and those with him in the ship were left. The floodwaters were on the earth for 150 days. Genesis 7:17-24 (GOD'S WORD® Translation)

God Put In There

God remembered Noah and all the wild and domestic animals with him in the ship. So God made a wind blow over the earth, and the water started to go down. The deep springs and the sky had been shut, and the rain had stopped pouring. The water began to recede from the land. At the end of 150 days the water had decreased. On the seventeenth day of the seventh month, the ship came to rest in the mountains of Ararat. The water kept decreasing until the tenth month. On the first day of the tenth month, the tops of the mountains appeared. Genesis 8:1-5 (GOD'S WORD® Translation)

You Think

After 40 more days Noah opened the window he had made in the ship and sent out a raven. It kept flying back and forth until the water on the land had dried up. Next, he sent out a dove to see if the water was gone from the surface of the ground. The dove couldn't find a place to land because the water was still all over the earth. So it came back to Noah in the ship. He reached out and brought the dove back into the ship. He waited seven more days and again sent the dove out of the ship. The dove came to him in the evening, and in its beak was a freshly plucked olive leaf. Then Noah knew that the water was gone from the earth. He waited seven more days and sent out the dove again, but it never came back to him.

By the first day of the first month of Noah's six hundred and first year, the water on the land had dried up. Noah opened the top of the ship, looked out, and saw the surface of the ground. By the twenty-seventh day of the second month the land was dry. Then God spoke to Noah, "Come out of the ship with your wife, your sons, and your sons' wives. Bring out every animal that's with you: birds, domestic animals, and every creature that crawls on the earth. Be fertile, increase in number, and spread over the earth." So Noah came out with his sons, his wife, and his sons' wives. Every animal, crawling creature, and bird-everything that moves on the earth-came out of the ship, one kind after another. Genesis 8:6-19 (GOD'S WORD® Translation)

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible)

Love, Your Brother Joe

Greetings FresnoJoe.... Amen to that!

[Gen 8:5 KJV] 5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth [month], on the first [day] of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

This was when the small window in the top of the Ark was opened. Until October 1st they could NOT see through the roof of the Ark. If they had  opened the window on 7/17, they could have seen the tops of the mountains then.

Gen 8:7 Noah released a Raven which did NOT return to the Ark.  

Gen 8:8-9 Then he released the Dove who returned and Noah thought the waters were on the face of the whole earth, so he took her  back into the ark.  

Gen 8:10 Then Noah waited 7 days more and released the Dove again and this time she returned with an Olive leaf in her mouth. 

Can somebody explain HOW an Olive tree can germinate in the mud of a flooded Earth, grow up into a tree and put forth leaves in  One week.  Olive trees can take up to a year to germinate. 

That could have been another mystery, if, one believes that the Great Flood actually happened on our present world, isn’t it!?

 

God bless

Edited June 27, 2016 by Seve

[FresnoJoe]

1 hour ago, Seve said:

Can somebody explain HOW an Olive tree can germinate in the mud of a flooded Earth, grow up into a tree and put forth leaves in One week. Olive trees can take up to a year to germinate.

That could have been another mystery, if, one believes that the Great Flood actually happened on our present world, isn’t it!?
 

Beloved, With The Biblical Jesus

Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.

And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away! Matthew 21:18-20

Seven Days Are Easy Peasy

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Genesis 2:1-3

[Seve]

EVERY living creature that moves, came forth from the Water, on the 5th Day Gen 1:21 and Science AGREES and dates the SAME event as beginning some 3.7 Billion years ago, in man's time. 

The sons of God (prehistoric people) diverged from Chimps some 6 Million years ago, but they were NOT Humans because they did NOT  have Adam's high level of intelligence which like God to know good and evil. Gen 3:22 They came forth from the water just like any other animal.

Adam was made some 10 Billion years earlier on the first Earth, which was totally destroyed in the Flood. He was the ONLY being made on the 3rd  Day Gen 2:4-7 (as Jesus meet) and therefore, could NOT have evolved from Apes because the FIRST Ape was not made for Billions of years AFTER Adam was formed of the dust of the ground (Gen 1:21). That's God's Truth. 

 

God Bless

Edited June 27, 2016 by Seve

[Seve]

God also tells us HOW and WHEN the sons of God (prehistoric people) on this Earth inherited the Human intelligence which is unique to Adam and  his descendants. God calls prehistoric people whose origin was in the water on Day 5, the sons of God.

The sons of God married and produced the Humans on the first Earth, which was destroyed in the Flood. Genesis 4 tells us that Cain married and produced Enoch, his son, with a woman who could ONLY have evolved from the water, as God told us. Today's Science confirms that EVERY living creature MUST have water to live  since EVERY cell in our body would die without it.

No ancient man traditional view could have possibly known this. Read it for yourself:

Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men (Heb -Adam), and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The giants were giants intellectually as is shown at the end of the verse. They were the Humans of the first Earth, and they had agriculture, smelting, city building, and technology with little of NO evolution. Adam farmed with NO evolution, and Cain built a city with NO evolution, showing that Human  intelligence is Superior to ANY creature made from the water.

The fulfillment of the prophecy of "and also after that" was fulfilled when Noah and his family brought the human intelligence of Adam to Northern Mesopotamia in the mountains of  Ararat. This happened some 10k years ago and the FIRST human cities and the FIRST agriculture, and the ONLY Human  civilization on our Earth, PROVES it.*

SUDDENLY, the sons of God, (prehistoric mankind) evolved the Human intelligence of Adam and changed from animal to Human intelligence. Prehistoric mankind settled down, built houses, cities, and developed math and writing, proving that anything is possible IF you have the intelligence of the first Human, Adam. Below is the  empirical record of the arrival of the first Humans on this Earth:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE....http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...lemap.html

In less than 1% of the time since the sons of God diverged from "Chimps", on this Planet, they went from Caves to the Moon and back, and yet Evolutionists seem to betotally ignorant of this Fact. Humans also were contaminated with the ERVs of the common ancestor of Chimps BUT Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor, but from our own common ancestor whose name is Adam.

 

God Bless

Edited June 27, 2016 by Seve

[HAZARD]

14 minutes ago, Seve said:

God also tells us HOW and WHEN the sons of God (prehistoric people) on this Earth inherited the Human intelligence which is unique to Adam and  his descendants. God calls prehistoric people whose origin was in the water on Day 5, the sons of God.

The sons of God married and produced the Humans on the first Earth, which was destroyed in the Flood. Genesis 4 tells us that Cain married and produced Enoch, his son, with a woman who could ONLY have evolved from the water, as God told us. Today's Science confirms that EVERY living creature MUST have water to live  since EVERY cell in our body would die without it.

No ancient man traditional view could have possibly known this. Read it for yourself:

Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men (Heb -Adam), and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The giants were giants intellectually as is shown at the end of the verse. They were the Humans of the first Earth, and they had agriculture, smelting, city building, and technology with little of NO evolution. Adam farmed with NO evolution, and Cain built a city with NO evolution, showing that Human  intelligence is Superior to ANY creature made from the water.

The fulfillment of the prophecy of "and also after that" was fulfilled when Noah and his family brought the human intelligence of Adam to Northern Mesopotamia in the mountains of  Ararat. This happened some 10k years ago and the FIRST human cities and the FIRST agriculture, and the ONLY Human  civilization on our Earth, PROVES it.*

SUDDENLY, the sons of God, (prehistoric mankind) evolved the Human intelligence of Adam and changed from animal to Human intelligence. Prehistoric mankind settled down, built houses, cities, and developed math and writing, proving that anything is possible IF you have the intelligence of the first Human, Adam. Below is the  empirical record of the arrival of the first Humans on this Earth:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE....http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...lemap.html

In less than 1% of the time since the sons of God diverged from "Chimps", on this Planet, they went from Caves to the Moon and back, and yet Evolutionists seem to betotally ignorant of this Fact. Humans also were contaminated with the ERVs of the common ancestor of Chimps BUT Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor, but from our own common ancestor whose name is Adam.

 

God Bless

That's devolution.

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In less than 1% of the time since the sons of God diverged from "Chimps"

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They were angels who left their first estate, married the daughters of men and bore children who became the giants. These angels are now reserved in Chains for their sin and are awaiting judgment.

Jude 1:6, And the angels which kept not their first estate,10 but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

This was Satans doing trying to break the clean line and prevent Jesus from being born.

[Seve]

1 hour ago, HAZARD said:

That's devolution.

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They were angels who left their first estate, married the daughters of men and bore children who became the giants. These angels are now reserved in Chains for their sin and are awaiting judgment.

Jude 1:6, And the angels which kept not their first estate,10 but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

This was Satans doing trying to break the clean line and prevent Jesus from being born.

There are many Religionists on this forum who continue to teach their doctrinal faith (based on ancient wild imagination of men) that the sons of God were Angels (???), but the context of the verse below completely eliminates Angels since the LORD is speaking of His disgust when He saw Humankind (Adam's descendants) begin to marry the sons of God (prehistoric people) which HE knew would bring Violence   and Death to Human kind, for thousands of years into the FUTURE. 

That is when He cut Human lifespans almost 90%. The older a heathen gets, the meaner he gets.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he ALSO is FLESH: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty  years.

Angels are NOT Flesh, but sons of God were (prehistoric people). Gen 6:4 

Edited June 27, 2016 by Seve

[HAZARD]

5 minutes ago, Seve said:

There are many Religionists on this forum who continue to teach their doctrinal faith (which is only based on wild imagination of men) that the sons of God were Angels (???), but the context of the verse below completely eliminates Angels since the LORD is speaking of His disgust when He saw Humankind (Adam's descendants) begin to marry the sons of God (prehistoric people) which HE knew would bring Violence and Death to Human kind, for thousands of years into the FUTURE. That is when He cut Human lifespans almost 90%. The older a heathen gets, the meaner he gets.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he ALSO is FLESH: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty  years.

Angels are NOT Flesh, but sons of God were (prehistoric people). Gen 6:4 

 That's news to us? Where does it say sons of God were prehistoric people? The sons of God who came into the women, daughters of men were angels.

Gen. 6: 4, There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Gen. 6:2,  That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

It is generally believed that there were only two branches of the human race: one a godly line through Seth; and the other, an ungodly line through Cain. But this is contrary to Scripture and history. All the sons and daughters of Adam and others throughout the antediluvian period started branches of the race. Then too, there were giants, the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men (Gen. 6:4).

There were millions of men on earth during this period. It would be impossible to have a race divided into two families. Cains line is mentioned only to the 7th generation (4:16-24). Seth's line is the only one entirely given in all this period, the purpose being to record the line of the Messiah from Adam to Christ 4:25 - 5:32; Luke 3:23-38.

Seth's line was just as ungodly as all the others. Able, Enoch and Noah were the only Godly people mentioned in this period of all the race. Apostasy began in Seth's line with his first born (4:26). This verse literally reads, "then man began to call themselves by the name of Jehovah," or "call upon their gods (idols) by the name of Jehovah." If true worship was began here then what kind of worship was that of Adam, Able, Seth and others up to that time (3:21; 4:1-15; Heb. 11:4)? Seth's line and others were so ungodly at the time of Enoch that he prophesised of their destruction (Jud 14). He also foretold the deluge, for he called his son Methuselah which means, "when he is dead it (the deluge) shall come."

Where were all the many so called sons of God from Seth's line during those last 600 years? God said to Noah that he was the only righteous one in the earth (6:9; 7:1). All flesh had corrupted his way upon earth, hence the judgment upon all flesh except eight persons. If Seth's line had not failed as much as all other men, God would not have destroyed them along with the ungodly.

Even Noah's family was not saved from the flood because they were pure Adamite stock.

Seth did not have a son until 235 years after creation, and his son did not have a son until 325 years after creation (5:3, 6:9). Where did these sons come from? They could not have been sons of Seth, for these marriages took place when men began to multiply - in the very beginning of the race before Seth had sons of marriageable age.

The term "sons of God" proves they were the product of God not of Seth. They were fallen angels of 1 Peter 3:19 ; 2 Peter 2:4 ; Jude 6-7.

[Seve]

The above is falsely implying that physical Giants were produced when Angels married and produced these "Giants" with Humans.   This is UnScriptural because: Jesus tells us that Angels do not marry. 

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

NO angel can be in Heaven IF they are made of Flesh, because flesh and blood cannot enter heaven. 1Co 15:50

Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Unless one believes in Macro-Evolution   Angels  do NOT have flesh and bone, therefore, can NOT have sex with Humans. We are confined to our own kind (ManKind) to be able reproduce.  

Also the Fallen Angels are kept in chains under the darkness until Judgment. Jude 1:6 So please explain Scripturally HOW fallen Angels, who do NOT marry nor produce children with Humans, got out of their Chains, came to Earth and produced these Giants?

The sons of God are what today's Science calls prehistoric mankind. They were creatures of FLESH which made it possible for God to produce 7 Billion Humans on Earth today, from Noah's THREE grandsons, and the prehistoric  people who were here when Noah arrived. 

Today's Humans contain the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons married and produced children with Prehistoric women and the children INSTANTLY inherited Adam's Human intelligence which made them Giants INTELLECTUALLY when compared to their mamas.

We know they had Flesh, just like Humans, because we find their bones all over the Earth from Millions of years ago, which was Millions of years BEFORE the FIRST Human, Noah, arrived on this "planet of Apes", some 10k years ago. 

Like today's Humans, Noah grew some grapes, and made some wine and got drunk and passed out naked, in his tent. Gen 9:21 This Scientific Proof that Noah was just like today's Humans. 

 

God Bless

Edited June 28, 2016 by Seve

[other one]

I really disagree....   and will just leave it at that.

[HAZARD]

3 hours ago, Seve said:

The above is falsely implying that physical Giants were produced when Angels married and produced these "Giants" with Humans.   This is UnScriptural because: Jesus tells us that Angels do not marry. 

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

NO angel can be in Heaven IF they are made of Flesh, because flesh and blood cannot enter heaven. 1Co 15:50

Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Unless one believes in Macro-Evolution   Angels  do NOT have flesh and bone, therefore, can NOT have sex with Humans. We are confined to our own kind (ManKind) to be able reproduce.  

Also the Fallen Angels are kept in chains under the darkness until Judgment. Jude 1:6 So please explain Scripturally HOW fallen Angels, who do NOT marry nor produce children with Humans, got out of their Chains, came to Earth and produced these Giants?

The sons of God are what today's Science calls prehistoric mankind. They were creatures of FLESH which made it possible for God to produce 7 Billion Humans on Earth today, from Noah's THREE grandsons, and the prehistoric  people who were here when Noah arrived. 

Today's Humans contain the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons married and produced children with Prehistoric women and the children INSTANTLY inherited Adam's Human intelligence which made them Giants INTELLECTUALLY when compared to their mamas.

We know they had Flesh, just like Humans, because we find their bones all over the Earth from Millions of years ago, which was Millions of years BEFORE the FIRST Human, Noah, arrived on this "planet of Apes", some 10k years ago. 

Like today's Humans, Noah grew some grapes, and made some wine and got drunk and passed out naked, in his tent. Gen 9:21 This Scientific Proof that Noah was just like today's Humans. 

 

God Bless

Matt. 22: 28, Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
   

V. 29, Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
   

V. 30, For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

 

You have totally missed the point of these Scriptures.

The purpose of marriage is to replenish the earth and keep the race going Resurrected saints and angels do not die and do not need to marry to keep their kind in existence Hence there is no marriage among angels or resurrected men and women. Jesus did not say that angels were sexless or that they could not marry and have offspring with women. That fallen angels did leave their own first estate and marry the daughters of men and produce races of giants is clear from Gen. 6:1-4.

Those who committed fornication are now in hell as is clear in Jude 6-7; 2 Peter 2:4. Angels are capable of many human activities.

That the angels did commit fornication is plain in Scripture. In 2 Peter 2:4-5 we have the statement that angels did sin before the flood and for this sin they were cast down to Hell and delivered into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. Peter does not tell us what sin the angels committed, but Jude 6-7 does: "And angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto judgment of the great day. EVEN AS SODOM AND GOMORRAH, and the cities about them IN LIKE MANNER [Greek, as did these angels], giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." In Gen. 6:1-4 we have the historical record of the sin of these angels.

If Sodom and other cities committed fornication and lived contrary to nature as did the angels, then the angels also committed fornication and lived contrary to nature. Thus we have plain proof that angels did live with the daughters of men, and to deny it is to deny part of the word of God.