Religions

[Guest pamnava]

Is is okey to take an interest in other religions, and still trust the Bible as the sole authority on all issues? I borrowed a copy of the Quran because I want to know if there is a difference between the two. Is not the God of Abraham the God of both Muslims, Christians, and Jews?

Pam

[J.C.]

Technically, He is the God of all things.

But in the Quran, somewhere, does it not stay to not befriend a Christian or a Jew and also to behead the infidels. Or something?

[nebula]

Pam - do you believe in Jesus?

Who do you believe Jesus to be?

And do you believe His words?

[Botz]

Hi Pam...good to meet you.

If you are an Christian established in your faith...then looking into other religions to understand what they are about is a reasonable undertaking...because you will measure what you read against what the word of G-d says...and if you meet people from other faiths you may be better equipped to present the Gospel to them.

If you are a new Christian I would suggest you put the urge to do this on the back-boiler for the time being and concentrate on getting the word of G-d from the Bible into your heart and just enjoy getting to know the L-rd Jesus ...I am sure your Pastor or leaders at your Church can give you G-dly advice about this as well.

Generally most Jews believe the Old Covenant/Testament...but have great difficulty with the Renewed/New Covenant because of the claims about Jesus the Son of David being the Messiah/Christ.

There are a growing number of Jews who have believed in Jesus and do trust the whole of the Scriptural records...all 66 books. These are generally referred to as Messianic Jews...and are our brothers and sisters.

Moslems claim to believe in G-d and the Patriarchs,Moses and Jesus/Isa...but they take their doctrines from the Qur'an and use this as an authority higher than the Bible which they claim has numerous mistakes in it.

Generally they call G-d by the name Allah...and do not believe that Jesus was the true Son of G-d who came to save mankind. They put great store by the Prophet of Islam called Mohammed who instigated the writings of the Qur'an.

Hope that helps a little...feel free to ask whatever you like.

Kind Regards. Botz.

[Old Timer]

Pam, Botz has offered some excellent advice.

While the Quran acknowledges Abraham they believe Ishmael is the heir, as his first son by Hagar, the Egyptian handmaiden of Sarah, and not Isaac.

If you first become fairly familiar with the Bible you will see vast differences between it and the Quran.

Mohammad appropriated the moon god and taught one god instead of the many that had been worshiped. Personally, I do not think Allah is the same god as worshiped by Jews and Christians. You will find some Christians that disagree with this. Indeed some very prominent Christians have said we all worship the same god. I do not think that Allah is the God of the Bible.

[J.C.]

Pam, Botz has offered some excellent advice.

While the Quran acknowledges Abraham they believe Ishmael is the heir, as his first son by Hagar, the Egyptian handmaiden of Sarah, and not Isaac.

If you first become fairly familiar with the Bible you will see vast differences between it and the Quran.

Mohammad appropriated the moon god and taught one god instead of the many that had been worshiped. Personally, I do not think Allah is the same god as worshiped by Jews and Christians. You will find some Christians that disagree with this. Indeed some very prominent Christians have said we all worship the same god. I do not think that Allah is the God of the Bible.

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Of course not, they do not believe in Jesus Christ! Thus, they do not believe in God.

[UndecidedFrog]

This is just my opinion. You don't have to accept it if you dislike it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

Dear Pam,

Actually, I think muslims, jews and christians believe in the god of abraham.

Further, the muslims and jews do not believe that jesus is god, as the christians do.

The jews and christians do not believe that mohammed was a prophet of god, as the muslims do.

The jews do not believe jesus was a prophet of god. However, the muslims do believe jesus was a prophet of god.

I know it is very confusing. I hope the above helps sort things out.

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

[Khristeeanos]

Sura 5:50-

Oh Believers! take not the Jews or Christians as friends.  They are but one another's friends.  If any one of you taketh them for his friends, he surely is one of them!  God will not guide the evil doers.

Sura 5:70

Infidels now are they who say, 'God is the Messiah, Son of Mary;' for the Messiah said, "O children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord.'  Whoever shall join other gods with God, God shall forbid him the Garden, and his abode shall be the Fire; and the wicked will have no helpers.

They surely are Infidels who say, 'God is the third of three;' for there is no God but one God: and if they refrain not from what they say, a grievous chastisement shall light on such of them as are Infidels.

Will they not, therefore, be thrned unto God, and ask pardon of Him? since God is Forgiving, Merciful!

The Messiah, Son of Mary, is but an Apostle; other Apostles have flourished before him; and his mother was a just person: they both ate food.  Behold! how we make clear to them the signs! then behold how they turn aside.

Sura 9:20

Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.

The Jews say, "Ezra is a son of God'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is a son of God.'  Such the sayings in their mouths!  They resemble the saying of the Infidels of old!  God do battle with them!  How they are misguided!

I hand wrote this from the Koran that I have. It says not to be a friend with a Christian and to make war upon Christians and Jews.

[J.C.]

Oh I dearly love Jesus! I just had to say that.

[Guest Jacee]

Gen 21:7 And she said, Who would have said unto Abraham, that Sarah should have given children suck? for I have born him a son in his old age.

Gen 21:8 And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned.

Gen 21:9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.

Gen 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

Gen 21:11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.

Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Gen 21:13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.

Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.

Gen 21:15 And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs.

Gen 21:16 And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.

Gen 21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.

Gen 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.

Gen 21:19 And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink.

Gen 21:20 And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.

Gen 21:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.

The difference between Isaac and Ishmael is one was born as the promise and one born of man's own will. Isaac was of the covenant. Born to produce the line which the messiah would come through. Ishmael covenanted with Egypt; those who did not worship Yahvah.

This is what the Lord said of Ishmael:

Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

And is this not what we see? Darkness is a twist away from light. That is the Koran. Uses a bit of light then twists it. BUT Jesus died for all mankind and even those who are so hardened and are committing such atrocities are not dead yet. There is always hope when there is breath.