QUESTIONS concerning 1Cor.15 & 1Thes.4

[WailingWall]

After being changed in the twinkling of an eye, we meet the Lord in the air. Where do we go from there? All the Rapturist claim we are going to heaven. Thing is, i cant find where that is actually written. Can anyone point out the scripture that makes that claim

[missmuffet]

9 minutes ago, WailingWall said:

After being changed in the twinkling of an eye, we meet the Lord in the air. Where do we go from there? All the Rapturist claim we are going to heaven. Thing is, i cant find where that is actually written. Can anyone point out the scripture that makes that claim

To heaven

Question: "What is the rapture of the church?"

Answer: The word rapture does not occur in the Bible. The term comes from a Latin word meaning “a carrying off, a transport, or a snatching away.” The concept of the “carrying off” or the rapture of the church is clearly taught in Scripture.

The rapture of the church is the event in which God “snatches away” all believers from the earth in order to make way for His righteous judgment to be poured out on the earth during the tribulation period. The rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50–54. God will resurrect all believers who have died, give them glorified bodies, and take them from the earth, along with all living believers, who will also be given glorified bodies at that time. “For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever” (1 Thessalonians 4:16–17).

The rapture will involve an instantaneous transformation of our bodies to fit us for eternity. “We know that when he [Christ] appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is” (1 John 3:2). The rapture is to be distinguished from the second coming. At the rapture, the Lord comes “in the clouds” to meet us “in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, the Lord descends all the way to the earth to stand on the Mount of Olives, resulting in a great earthquake followed by a defeat of God’s enemies (Zechariah 14:3–4).

The doctrine of the rapture was not taught in the Old Testament, which is why Paul calls it a “mystery” now revealed: “Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51–52).

The rapture of the church is a glorious event we should all be longing for. We will finally be free from sin. We will be in God’s presence forever. There is far too much debate over the meaning and scope of the rapture. This is not God’s intent. Rather, the rapture should be a comforting doctrine full of hope; God wants us to “encourage each other with these words” (1 Thessalonians 4:18).

https://gotquestions.org/rapture-of-the-church.html

[WailingWall]

27 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

To heaven

 

Read what ya wrote. Saw your answer. Didnt see any scriptures that say we are goin to heaven at that time. Is there any?

[missmuffet]

4 minutes ago, WailingWall said:

Read what ya wrote. Saw your answer. Didnt see any scriptures that say we are goin to heaven at that time. Is there any?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

¹⁶ For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. ¹⁷ Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

We shall be with the Lord. Where do you think the Lord is if not in heaven?

[WailingWall]

33 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

¹⁶ For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. ¹⁷ Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

We shall be with the Lord. Where do you think the Lord is if not in heaven?

Hes in heaven now but in 1Thes.4 He returns to earth and we meet Him in the air. Where are we going from there? Your simply speculating. Id like to see in scripture

[Marilyn C]

 

1 hour ago, WailingWall said:

After being changed in the twinkling of an eye, we meet the Lord in the air. Where do we go from there? All the Rapturist claim we are going to heaven. Thing is, i cant find where that is actually written. Can anyone point out the scripture that makes that claim

Hi WailingWall,

A very, very good & important question, & one that needs to be answered scripturally.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne, as I overcame & sat down with my Father on His throne.` (3: 21)

So we see that the Body of Christ, the overcomers will be with Christ on His throne - ie with His authority.

Next question is obviously - `Where is Christ`s throne?`

regards, Marilyn. 

[missmuffet]

32 minutes ago, WailingWall said:

Hes in heaven now but in 1Thes.4 He returns to earth and we meet Him in the air. Where are we going from there? Your simply speculating. Id like to see in scripture

All of the born again believers will be taken to heaven in the rapture of the Church. This is a different event than the second coming at the end of the seven year tribulation.  Then there will be the seven year tribulation. The unbelievers will be on earth for the seven year tribulation. Many of those unbelievers will come to Christ and become believers because the Holy Spirit will still be on this earth. Those who become Christians during the seven year tribulation will become martyrs. They will die under the Antichrist because Christians will be forbidden at this time. At the end of the seven year tribulation Christ will come back to earth and Satan will be bound and then Christ will set up the 1000 year millennium on earth. There will be a very small remnant of believers left to go into the 1000 year millennium. All of those who took the Mark of the Beast from the Antichrist will go to hell. Then will not go into the 1000 year millennium.

[WailingWall]

11 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

 

Hi WailingWall,

A very, very good & important question, & one that needs to be answered scripturally.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne, as I overcame & sat down with my Father on His throne.` (3: 21)

So we see that the Body of Christ, the overcomers will be with Christ on His throne - ie with His authority.

Next question is obviously - `Where is Christ`s throne?`

regards, Marilyn. 

Hi Marilyn. Nice to meet ya.

Matthew 25:31-34 (KJV)
³¹ When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
³² And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
³³ And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
³⁴ Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Its when Jesus sets up His kingdom on earth
 

 

Edited November 17, 2016 by WailingWall

[WailingWall]

6 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

All of the born again believers will be taken to heaven in the rapture of the Church.

Again no scripture to prove what you say. Tell me missmuffet, how many general resurrections are yet to happen?

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, WailingWall said:

Again no scripture to prove what you say. Tell me missmuffet, how many general resurrections are yet to happen?

I have posted all that I know. Go to Scripture and get your answers in the Holy Bible.