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Quote: from Teri Mc on 10:51 pm on Mar. 20, 2002

It is a common idea that when people die they go to heaven. But if scripture says first the dead in Christ shall be raised, wouldn't that mean that these people are still asleep and not in heaven yet but are waiting for Christ. You know everyone says someone is in heaven, but is this really true? If so then who would be the dead in Christ?

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2Corinthians  5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at

home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

The dead in Chirst's bodies will be raised first Teri and will recieve their eternal spiritual bodies...

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our bodies are not yet redeemed... our spirits are...

we have eternal life spiritually... so when our body dies, we go to heaven... 'to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord' we are told in the Bible...

the body waits for its redemption, which will be on resurrection day (rapture day)...

read Romans 8:19-25... I get goosebumps reading it... it is fantastic...

the body (if the rapture does not happen first) will someday die... and the body awaits in the grave for the redemption of the body... in the meantime, the spirit will be in heaven... with Jesus... jumping, shouting, and praising...  

soon, the spirit and body will be reunited and given a 'glorified, eternal body'... and we will be ruling and reigning with Jesus...

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Thanks Mujahel

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SECOND DAY

Genesis 1

6   And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7   And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8   And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The second day of creation God created the expanse or the separation of water from the earth into the sky to form clouds. We do not always see the expanse between earth and sky but we know it is there, God called this heaven. This pointed to the third heaven that is in the Spirit realm. The second heaven was created on the four day. The third heaven can be seen in our relationship with God as our Spirit ascends like water into the air, this is what the meaning of being caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds is about. By faith when we were baptized in water we died with Christ. Than as Christ rose from the dead, our Spirit separated from the earthly things into the heavenly things just like water expanding into the air. As clouds are formed by the expanse of water, we come together in fellowship with Christ and each other in the Spirit. Then as rain comes back to the earth we are sent into the world to give it life, with Christ

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You know Jesus said, "In My Father's house are many mansions"  As George says there are different levels to heaven.  I may be way off here and I have asked so many people and nobody knows, BUT, I can't find anywhere that the people of Israel will be in heaven.  I find plenty of scripture especially in Isaiah, that the new earth will be forever and they will dwell in the land that was promised them there, forever, but I don't find them going to the mansions in heaven, I dunno!!!

I did hear the most amazing thing from Perry Stone the other night, that if we read Genesis 11 backward to Gen 1 we will see the entire end times all the way to perfection.  For example, the earthquake, the 'rapture of Enoch', the days of Noah, theMark of Cain, the perfect earth...not necessarily in that order, I didn't look at my notes and that wasn't all , there was a lot there.  I plan to study it out more.

Guess that was a whole lot of no help, hu? :)

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Interesting Cain recieved a mark because he failed to love. Remember the new commandment replacing the two great commandment.

As far as Jews making it into heaven. Maybe theres another heaven where they have the law and the prophets instead of the Holy Spirit and Jesus.   :T:

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