Christians Who Choose Not To Help

[Avodah]

You need to donate where your heart directs you.

If the Lord tells you to give in a certain area, then by all means do it. Obedience is best.

[refugepsa91]

You need to donate where your heart directs you.

Aside from that, this statement has me concerned.

This month I received money from the VA claim I had placed last Sept.

Why would you place a claim with the VA, if you didn't need the money for yourself? Essentially, you taken from the tax payers, and gave it away.

VA benefits are for veterans who need he money.

 

I guess I don't understand how you could put in for a benefit, that you yourself did not need.

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WOW...jim....you have no idea whether snow needed that money or not...

I will not explain for snow...but I can tell you this...she is the type of person if she only has two dollars in her pocket she will give it away...this lady has been through alot but she never fails to bless someone else if given a chance.

Love and Blessings,

Angel

[Trinity]

Your mother and friends were right. There are numerous Christian organizations that help with the poor and elderly and children and spread the Gospel to them. This is what is commanded of us in scripture and is the heart of Jesus and the

It's funny . . . nobody gripes about people giving money to the victims of the tsunami through any organization (well, maybe except for the Red Cross due to business malpractice issues). Yet, seek to restore relations between Christians and Jews, and people complain.

I'm with you , Snow!

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You are so... right i can't believe people like that

[dwinkjr]

Your mother and friends were right. There are numerous Christian organizations that help with the poor and elderly and children and spread the Gospel to them. This is what is commanded of us in scripture and is the heart of Jesus and the

It's funny . . . nobody gripes about people giving money to the victims of the tsunami through any organization (well, maybe except for the Red Cross due to business malpractice issues). Yet, seek to restore relations between Christians and Jews, and people complain.

I'm with you , Snow!

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While I understand what you are saying Neb, I don't think you fully understand what DE was saying here. We all must agree that it is far more important that this Jew finds Jesus than that they get a trip to Isreal. What DE said was actually promoting relations between Christians and Jews, in this scenario I like DE would only donate if I knew the one I was sending home was a Messianic who could help to further the Kingdom of Christ amongst his/her people.

God Bless,

Dave

[dwinkjr]

You need to donate where your heart directs you.

Aside from that, this statement has me concerned.

This month I received money from the VA claim I had placed last Sept.

Why would you place a claim with the VA, if you didn't need the money for yourself? Essentially, you taken from the tax payers, and gave it away.

VA benefits are for veterans who need he money.

 

I guess I don't understand how you could put in for a benefit, that you yourself did not need.

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You are way off base here brother, the question is not do I need this money, the question is does somebody else need it more then I.

God Bless,

Dave

[Keith]

VA Benefits are not easy to get. If she applied, and qualified, then she deserves the money. Snow is held accountable to God for her stewardship. I don't think God will have any problems with her donation. Good on ya, Snow!

[JimR-OCDS]

VA Benefits are not easy to get.  If she applied, and qualified, then she deserves the money.  Snow is held accountable to God for her stewardship.  I don't think God will have any problems with her donation.  Good on ya, Snow!

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I know a lot about VA benefits, and what you must do to qualify for them. My father became disabled back when he was 43, I was 12 at the time. My family, lived off of VA benefits and my father, at age 82, still receive's some help from the VA.

It just strikes me as something wrong, to apply for government benefits, which come out of taxpayer's pockets, that you don't use for yourself, but give them away. Either you need it, or you don't. If you are willing to go without for yourself, fine, but you probably didn't need the money in the first place. If you don't need it, leave it for other's that do and especially don't ask the oblivious taxpayers, to forcibly contribute to your little private charity.

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings,

I just cannot understand the concensus of the majority here that have posted. I suspect the majority are pre-tribbers and this has shaped their views. But being a pre-tribber then you believe that the anti-christ will be set up in Jerusalem and everyone will have to take the Mark of the Beast. Jerusalem is often believed to be Babylon in Revelation.

Currently, according to our Forum Host, George, there are less than 2% of those in Israel who are Jews that know their Messiah. So of the 5.3 million Jews, only about 106,000 or less are True Jews.

Now, what sense does it make to send someone there when it is much easier in almost every other country to reach them with the Gospel? You guys just don't seem to get it.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest shiloh357]

Your mother and friends were right. There are numerous Christian organizations that help with the poor and elderly and children and spread the Gospel to them. This is what is commanded of us in scripture and is the heart of Jesus and the

It's funny . . . nobody gripes about people giving money to the victims of the tsunami through any organization (well, maybe except for the Red Cross due to business malpractice issues). Yet, seek to restore relations between Christians and Jews, and people complain.

I'm with you , Snow!

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While I understand what you are saying Neb, I don't think you fully understand what DE was saying here. We all must agree that it is far more important that this Jew finds Jesus than that they get a trip to Isreal. What DE said was actually promoting relations between Christians and Jews, in this scenario I like DE would only donate if I knew the one I was sending home was a Messianic who could help to further the Kingdom of Christ amongst his/her people.

God Bless,

Dave

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God is calling ALL Jews back home, not just us Messianics. The truth is that there are Messianic ministries in Israel that minister to unsaved Jews being brought back into the Land. True, Jews need Jesus more than they need to live in Israel, but when Christians help Jews return to Israel, we are becoming God's partners as He fulfills His promises to the Jews in Ezek. 36. Ezekiel 36 prophesies that God will bring the Jewish people back to the land IN their unbelief.

Furthermore, Jewish people who are unsaved will not in all likelyhood be reached in Europe or many of the other countries they currently inhabit due to the anti-Semitism that is so prevalent world-wide. They will not darken the door of a church, and pretty much insulate themselves from the Christians. Most churches in Europe and abroad do not have a serious plan about reaching the Jews anyway. Only in Israel, are there minsitries that are sensitive the particulars in reaching Jewish people.

I know of plenty of Christians who donate money to nonChristian Gentiles to help them get a place to live, to have food or clothes or even employment. Why does that standard disappear where Jews are concerned? Why are the only Jews we minister to, Messianics? There are Messianic ministries in Israel that Jews suffering Europe do not have access to. They are more likely to hear the gospel in Israel than almost any other country in the world, save the U.S.

The Church has a lot of work to do in helping to heal the rift between us the the unsaved Jewish community. Snow has done something to help heal that rift, and I will support Snow all the way.

[Guest shiloh357]

Greetings,

I just cannot understand the concensus of the majority here that have posted. I suspect the majority are pre-tribbers and this has shaped their views. But being a pre-tribber then you believe that the anti-christ will be set up in Jerusalem and everyone will have to take the Mark of the Beast. Jerusalem is often believed to be Babylon in Revelation.

Currently, according to our Forum Host, George, there are less than 2% of those in Israel who are Jews that know their Messiah. So of the 5.3 million Jews, only about 106,000 or less are True Jews.

Now, what sense does it make to send someone there when it is much easier in almost every other country to reach them with the Gospel? You guys just don't seem to get it.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

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No, YOU don't get it.

God is calling the Jews, back to their land. Most of us want to partner with God and bless the Jewish people. If you don't, well then fine. That's between you and God. But don't disparage those who seek to bless the Jewish people.

So of the 5.3 million Jews, only about 106,000 or less are True Jews.

So what makes you think the ratio is any different among Jews in Russia? Romania? Hungary, etc.? There is very little done to reach the Jewish people in those countries by the Christians that live there, much less by missionaries that are sent over.

BTW, you are not in a position to tell anyone, including Jews, who is or is not a true Jew. Don't even start trying to tell anyone especially a Jew that he does not fit your unscriptural definition of a "true Jew." It that kind of stuck up presumptuous nonsense that turns Jews away from listening to those of us who actually KNOW what we are talking about.