kenny2212 Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2017 The first 5 seals happen before the rapture. The 6th seal is the rapture. The wrath of God starts after the 6th seal (with the 7 trumpets). There is a pause of the wrath of God after the trumpets though. The 2 witnesses and the antichrist come on the scene during this pause. It will seem God is inactive during the reign of the antichrist. But God will have his agents on the earth- the 2 witnesses. The 2 witnesses will be killed after the period of their service. The wrath of God resumes very soon after the three-and-a-half years of service of the 2 witnesses- the 7 bowls. Questions are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Rapture occurs before anything else you describe, so your premise is flawed on its face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Rick, I believe you hold to the view that the rapture is pre-trib. The rapture actually is pre-trib but not pre-revelation (I mean the book of Revelation). What I mean is that the rapture actually does not come before everything that's written in the Book of Revelation. The rapture definitely doesn't come before the letters (see Rev 1-3). Also it does not come before the first 5 seals. The tribulation doesn't start until after the 6th seal. And by tribulation I mean tribulation by the Antichrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2017 23 minutes ago, kenny2212 said: Rick, I believe you hold to the view that the rapture is pre-trib. The rapture actually is pre-trib but not pre-revelation (I mean the book of Revelation). What I mean is that the rapture actually does not come before everything that's written in the Book of Revelation. The rapture definitely doesn't come before the letters (see Rev 1-3). Also it does not come before the first 5 seals. The tribulation doesn't start until after the 6th seal. And by tribulation I mean tribulation by the Antichrist. So you are mid tribulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2017 5 hours ago, kenny2212 said: The first 5 seals happen before the rapture. The 6th seal is the rapture. The wrath of God starts after the 6th seal (with the 7 trumpets). There is a pause of the wrath of God after the trumpets though. The 2 witnesses and the antichrist come on the scene during this pause. It will seem God is inactive during the reign of the antichrist. But God will have his agents on the earth- the 2 witnesses. The 2 witnesses will be killed after the period of their service. The wrath of God resumes very soon after the three-and-a-half years of service of the 2 witnesses- the 7 bowls. Questions are welcome. This is the Readers Digest version of the Pre Wrath Version of end times. I do happen to think this is the correct one, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Missmuffet, I'm pre-wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2017 Blessings kenny    I like that..."pre-wrath",very good!                                      With love-in Christ,kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2017 Pre-wrath is bogus .... primarily a product of Marvin Rosenthal's idea of placing 3.5 prophetic years into the past in Daniel's rendering All of the 70th week is still pending as we speak and not just the last portion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted April 3, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'm pre-the wrath of God. Meaning the rapture happens before the wrath of God is poured out. And I agree, Daniel, that the 70th week is still pending, but not the book of Revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundeddog Posted April 4, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,370 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 1,054 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/21/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/18/1868 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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