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[Absolem]

1 minute ago, shiloh357 said:

None of us would have died with him.   Here's why:

1. We would be a product of that cultural worldview and back then crucifixion meant that was not only undergoing a painful death, but it would be the ultimate dishonor to oneself and to one's family.   So no one wanted crucifixion.  Death by beheading would be preferable or death by stoning.  But crucifixion was only reserved for the worst of the worst.

2. It was prophesied that Jesus would die alone.  Jesus even prophesied the same thing.   Zech. 13: 7 says in part, "...strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter..."    God would not allow anyone violate His prophetic word.

3. You would do more good for the kingdom of God alive than dying with Jesus.   Jesus was not a martyr.  His death was a sin offering for us.   You dying with Him would be a rather pointless death, not a heroic one.

Right about it being prophesied his death would be alone, wrong about it being a pointless death. If the Lord did allow it it would be the greastest martyrdom ever.

[Guest shiloh357]

8 minutes ago, Absolem said:

Right about it being prophesied his death would be alone, wrong about it being a pointless death. If the Lord did allow it it would be the greastest martyrdom ever.

No, it would not...

[PlanetChee]

3 hours ago, Absolem said:

Would you have ran like the disciples did when they came and got Jesus or would you die with him?

Where does it state the Disciples ran? If they would have ran when the temple guard came to make their arrest Peter wouldn't have cut the ear off one of them so that Jesus could perform one last miracle and restore that to the guards head. 

 

[Absolem]

1 minute ago, PlanetChee said:

Where does it state the Disciples ran? If they would have ran when the temple guard came to make their arrest Peter wouldn't have cut the ear off one of them so that Jesus could perform one last miracle and restore that to the guards head. 

 

Okay so one out of twelve that denied him three times stuck around long enough to chop an ear off.

[Guest]

It was preordained for the events to happen just the way they did. The specific people who were Christ's disciples were kind of "the luck of the draw" and could have really been anyone. Just as it was preordained that one of the disciples would betray Christ, it did not have to be Judas Iscariot. It could have been another person. So many people think that they would have been a better disciple than the ones that were. That is ridiculous and a matter of sinful pride.

[PlanetChee]

8 minutes ago, Absolem said:

Okay so one out of twelve that denied him three times stuck around long enough to chop an ear off.

What verse says they all ran?

[Absolem]

30 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:

It was preordained for the events to happen just the way they did. The specific people who were Christ's disciples were kind of "the luck of the draw" and could have really been anyone. Just as it was preordained that one of the disciples would betray Christ, it did not have to be Judas Iscariot. I could have been another person. So many people think that they would have been a better disciple than the ones that were. That is ridiculous and a matter of sinful pride.                

Maybe.

[Absolem]

24 minutes ago, PlanetChee said:

What verse says they all ran?

Mark 14:50

And they all forsook him, and fled.

[PlanetChee]

13 minutes ago, Absolem said:

Mark 14:50

And they all forsook him, and fled.

When he was already arrested. Yes. But the Disciples stayed until the guard were taking Jesus away. And then there was the young man in the linen cloth that remained and followed the arrested Jesus. Until the guard tried to capture him and then he too fled. Leaving just the garment behind. 

[Absolem]

Just now, PlanetChee said:

When he was already arrested. Yes. But the Disciples stayed until the guard were taking Jesus away. And then there was the young man in the linen cloth that remained and followed the arrested Jesus. Until the guard tried to capture him and then he too fled. Leaving just the garment behind. 

Yeah. They all left.