OldSchool2 Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Anonymous Aristotle said: The book of common prayer has nothing as we know to do with Christ's actual teachings. It's a liturgical work with Anglican roots that arrived just after the reformation. Didn't most Protestants on these forums arrive sometime after the Reformation? "It is a most invaluable part of that blessed 'liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free,' that in his worship different forms and usages may without offence be allowed, provided the substance of the Faith be kept entire; and that, in every Church, what cannot be clearly determined to belong to Doctrine must be referred to Discipline.... "And now, this important work being brought to a conclusion, it is hoped the whole will be received and examined by every true member of our Church, and every sincere Christian, with a meek, candid, and charitable frame of mind; without prejudice or prepossessions; seriously considering what Christianity is, and what the truths of the Gospel are; and earnestly beseeching Almighty God to accompany with his blessing every endeavour for promulgating them to mankind in the clearest, plainest, most affecting and majestic manner, for the sake of Jesus Christ, our blessed Lord and Saviour." Preface to the BCP, Philadelphia, October, 1789. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Aristotle Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 264 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said: Didn't most Protestants on these forums arrive sometime after the Reformation? "It is a most invaluable part of that blessed 'liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free,' that in his worship different forms and usages may without offence be allowed, provided the substance of the Faith be kept entire; and that, in every Church, what cannot be clearly determined to belong to Doctrine must be referred to Discipline.... "And now, this important work being brought to a conclusion, it is hoped the whole will be received and examined by every true member of our Church, and every sincere Christian, with a meek, candid, and charitable frame of mind; without prejudice or prepossessions; seriously considering what Christianity is, and what the truths of the Gospel are; and earnestly beseeching Almighty God to accompany with his blessing every endeavour for promulgating them to mankind in the clearest, plainest, most affecting and majestic manner, for the sake of Jesus Christ, our blessed Lord and Saviour." Preface to the BCP, Philadelphia, October, 1789. What does that have to do with the book of common prayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: But the Bible, especially the Old Testament, wasn't written in a vacuum. The Bible is the only thing that carries into the eternal state... the rest shall be burnt up 2 Peter 3:10 (KJV) [10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor HOMOSEXUALS, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God." Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper." Homosexuality is CLEARLY condemned in the Bible. It undermines the basis of God's created order where God made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman -- not two men, not two women -- to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth (Gen. 1:28). Homosexuality cannot carry out that command. It also undermines the basic family unit of husband and wife, the God-ordained means of procreation. It is also dangerous to society. Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a heavy judgment administered by God Himself upon those who commit it - and support it. This judgment is simple in that those who practice it are given over to their passions - which means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins. ἀρσενοκοίτης arsenokoitēs ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace From G730 and G2845; a sodomite: - abuser of (that defile) self with mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2017 Church Organization... ho hum,, no surprises here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Anonymous Aristotle said: What does that have to do with the book of common prayer? BCP is the accepted abbreviation for the Book of Common Prayer, which is also a proper noun denoting the book's title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords99 Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Anonymous Aristotle said: That's true. There's also no sinners prayer. And there's no reference to Trinity, nor is there reference to purgatory in the Bible. God made man in his image and likeness. Then men wrote the Bible and taught doctrine in their own image and likeness. Having nothing to do with God's word at all. That's why Gods foresight told us in his word to not trust every spirit. But to discern with righteous judgment the truth. delete. off topic Edited July 11, 2017 by Swords99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swords99 Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2017 20 hours ago, Pudgenik said: If you like doing what you want, and it is against God's teaching. I'm sure there will be all sorts of stories. Think of a child that steels. Parents ask where did you get this. If the child is not remorseful, lies upon lies I believe something is wrong with these people, but it's not caused by any sin they have committed and were punished for it. This was, and maybe still is, a Jewish belief as we see in the bible concerning the man born blind. It was asked of Jesus if he or his parents had sinned. Concerning gays, I have noticed their effeminate appearance and stance. This is not learned behavior. They almost all look this way. Many gay males are shorter in stature with higher voices. Just makes you wonder about genetics, etc. I once saw a TV interview with a gay catholic priest. He said he tried everything to get 'cured' or healed, but nothing worked. There is also a gay Episcopal priest on TV every week. he said he was born gay but refuses to live that lifestyle. It has never left him. What do we say about folks like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 hours ago, enoob57 said: The Bible is the only thing that carries into the eternal state... the rest shall be burnt up Unfortunately, the image of burning the Book of Common Prayer -- whose language has been compared second only to that of the King James Bible -- as well as other books recalls to mind a dark period in Germany's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgenik Posted July 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 616 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Davida said: Humans claim lots of things that are false. The Common Book of Prayer can't compare with the KJB because only the Bible itself is the Word of GOD and is God breathed. Is it the fulness of the book that makes it the Word of God? Or is it each word that makes it the Word of God? In the scripture we read it is our hearts that must be circumcised. So it isn't either reading all the book nor pieces of the book. Rather it is what we recieve in our hearts. So even if there are parts of the bible in a prayer book, each of those parts are the fulness of Christ, if recieved into our hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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