Liars Drive me nuts.

[JTC]

I feel like I'm surrounded by nothing but liars. Not here. In what I call my real world. I have 1 family member left and I don't want to lose her. A few months ago I asked her where her husband came from and she told me New Jersey. Fine. Last week she said Sacramento CA. That's just a minor example. For some reason I almost never lie. When I was young this made me well liked. Now is my older years it seems to cause nothing but problems. I guess I'm just venting.

[Born4Jesus]

Hello JTC,

Why not talking to her franckly and if she I strongly believe that Yahweh our Lord God and Father in heaven will help you keeping your friendship. For real friendship only comes from heart and of course with Jesus Christ in its centre. You cannot succeed without jesus Chrst, the Bible says in John 15:5.

By the way, you have to pray for yourself and your lovely sister I mean your family member. And why not te whole of your family?

Shalom!

[Willa]

It is possible that both are true.  Many times there are apparent conflicts in Scripture because both or all are true.   He may have been born in one and moved to his present residence from the other.  I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.  Perhaps that makes me gullible and not street wise.  But I would prefer to believe the best of people.   I have given different answers to people in that way, because both are true.  I didn't intend to lie and would hope people didn't take my answers as a lie.  Sometimes one was a true short answer and the other was a true more detailed long answer.  

[JTC]

She's a cousin but we grew up like she was a sister. There were 4 of us. She had 2 brothers and they both died. Me and her is all that's left. They aren't Christians. Where her husband is from is a minor issue. Not important. There's a guy around here who gives me rides but I have to pay him. All he does is lie. He pretends to believe in God when he's with me but it's obvious he doesn't. He won't do a thing for anyone unless he's going to get something out of it. He even told me that, more than once.

For some reason I don't lie. I never did. Maybe it's because I was an only child and my parents always knew it if I lied. Maybe the Holy Spirit has always been in me even when I didn't know it. I just don't lie. It's rough living in a world where you're expected to lie and you don't do it. God doesn't want us to lie and that means more than getting what I want by lying. I was very frustrated when I made this post. I know no one can do anything about it.

[Wayne222]

Sometimes people lie because there afraid. There afraid of a reaction they won't like. The worst lies are being a false witness.  Or trying to get someone in trouble. Sometimes speaking the truth is wrong. Like telling someone there faults. If they cannot handle it it will only cause trouble. God wants truth spoken not lies. Speak truth out of love. 

[Guest]

On 8/2/2017 at 5:41 AM, JTC said:

Maybe the Holy Spirit has always been in me even when I didn't know it.

Does your statement agree with scripture? NO! 

We are indwelled by the Holy Spirit when we are old enough to know how to come with a humble and contrite heart. We have to be old enough to reason out what the gospel of Christ means.

 We know when God has drawn us because we have a godly sorrow of our sin ie contrite. We are broken! We see just how wretched we are without the LORD. We feel dirty and need Christ to cleanse us. We feel empty because Christ has not yet saved us. We understand that it is only Christ who can save us and make our hearts of stone into hearts of flesh.

We have to confess with our mouth.Romans 10:9-10 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

 The Holy Spirit is  not dwelling  inside those "who do not know it".  A Saint  knows when they were converted! 

 

Which btw, in your OP,you say you "almost never lie" and then you go on to  post another saying " I never lie" 

I think its best for us to say we try to not lie by the grace of God!  Because the truth of the matter is sometimes satan steals our tongue and a lie slips out even if we dont mean it to! We have to go back and renounce what we said and repent of it. All humans lie even those that seek righteousness. We are daily fighting our flesh! Even a little white lie is a lie. Sometimes we lie to protect someone  just like rehab did. Keeping a secret of a surprise party is a lie if we are asked and we respond to keep the secret!  But what I have come to learn is that we are NOT always called to explain everything out . We can choose to remain quiet to avoid from lying. 

 

Blessings  

[Guest]

<<hugs>>

anyway, i am just thinking since you are not working at the moment and is a bit isolated and not attending church

are you able to maybe listen to teachings and put worship music in the background in your house

i think spiritiual warfare maybe part of the issues, and since you are isolated.....

anyway, i think it is wrong to lie, we don't know why she did...

though i think unless it is something that is detrimental to your personally, maybe just focus on other things......

[JTC]

9 hours ago, Redemption79 said:

<<hugs>>

anyway, i am just thinking since you are not working at the moment and is a bit isolated and not attending church

are you able to maybe listen to teachings and put worship music in the background in your house

i think spiritiual warfare maybe part of the issues, and since you are isolated.....

anyway, i think it is wrong to lie, we don't know why she did...

though i think unless it is something that is detrimental to your personally, maybe just focus on other things......

Unfortunately I'm probably never gonna work again. First of all I am 65 but that's not the reason. I can barely walk nor can I stand up much longer than 20 mins and then pain starts in my legs. So why is this, that's what I want to know. In 2002 the right side of my body went numb and at first they thought I had MS. Maybe I do. But a team of neurologists finally concluded I don't have MS I have Demyelinating disease. Both have almost the same symptoms but whereas MS is progressive Demyelinating disease isn't supposed to be. In 2010 I went to spinal specialist who sent me for a Lumbar MRI. He said my back is "a mess" but there was nothing he could do surgery on. I can't find the MRI report but there were 2 herniated discs. Also called degenerative disc disease. There was also mild spinal stenosis. That was 2010. Spinal stenosis is progressive and in the last 7 years my legs keep feeling weaker and I can barely walk. I'm also progressively more bent over. I can no longer stand straight up and it keeps getting worse. So I can forget working. It's a pity because until 2012 I was driving a Taxi Cab and I loved doing that. I'm a great driver and I'm a people person. Cab drivers are similar to bartenders. Many people go in bars to talk to the bartender. Many taxi passengers also want someone they can talk to. A lot of drivers hate people and they don't want to hear your problems. But I was originally going to be a psychotherapist. I enjoy hearing problems. I also seem to have a burden for women that were sexually abused. God did this. I had many passengers who had been victims of sexual abuse. But it goes beyond even that. One night I was stopped for a light when a 24 yr old woman opened my back door and begged me to let her in. I wasn't supposed to do that. In this area, by law, you have to call for a cab. I could have gotten a huge fine for letting this girl in. But she was crying hysterically. Here's the story. She was at a dance club and went home with a guy who said he wanted her to hear his stereo. She believed him. Once he had in his apt he attempted to rape her. She fought him off and got out running and crying. That was when she saw my taxi. 90% of drivers would not have let her in, but I did. She was a 20 min ride so so she told me what happened. I calmed her down. I stayed with her until I had to go on another call.

I also had long talks with a lot of young people who were confused about God. One young woman came from a home where 1 parent was Catholic and the other protestant. This girl was genuinely confused concerning the Lord's Prayer. At the end of it we say to God "For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever." That was what Jesus taught in Matthew. However, in Luke Jesus left that line out. Well, this poor girl's parents had her so confused we worried that God would get mad at her and not listen to a word she said. She was in my cab about 40 minutes so we had a long talk. I convinced her that God doesn't care whether she says those words or not. God's concern is if she's praying sincerely or not. Her feeling was that she should say it, but this poor girl always had to remember which parent thought it was right to say it and which parent said she was sinning by saying it. Most of my fellow drivers wouldn't have even wanted to hear this. But God made sure she got me. I loved driving a cab so much sometimes I dream about it. But I can't do it anymore.

I know sometimes some people lie so as not to hurt feelings. Others lie bc they're feelings are so sensitive they fear if they tell the truth someone else will use it to hurt them. Some lie bc they're believing a lie themselves, some are aware of this others aren't. I have 1 family member left and although she's a cousin we grew up as if she was my sister. She's what you call a good egg. But she lies a lot and I'm usually aware of it. But I don't want to lose my last family member so I let her. I know this other man who may be a psychopath. He's not a good person and I only associate with him bc he's the only person who will ever give me a ride. However, I always have to pay him but he's cheaper than a cab. He has a common law wife he's been with 25 yrs. He was a junkie when he was young and she was like a mother to him. A mother he always lied to. Two yrs ago his wife had a stroke. Suddenly the table turned. Now she needs constant care. I'm surprised he's still with her. Remember, a person with psychopathy doesn't feel compassion like most of us do. That's what defines psychopathy. Apparently the doc's lead him to believe his wife would fully recover from the stroke. He expected her to return to work so she wouldn't know where he is and he could lie. But she's getting worse. He wants my help. He gets rage attacks and he makes her worse. Yesterday he was telling me he thinks she likes being sick. He's on the verge of leaving her. I suppose in his mind all he can think about is he has to care for her, and not get anything back, and this enrages him. One day I told him they should pray for God's help. So he lied to me. He told me they always pray. I know they don't. I don't even think he believes God is real. He went to HS with a distant cousin and that's why I know him. Normally I wouldn't concern myself with a man like him but he asked for my help.

When we become Christians most of us spend yrs wondering if we have a spiritual gift and do we have a ministry. I know I did. In 1 Corinthians 12:28 Paul says this. " And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues." When I first read that 30+ yrs ago the word helps practically jumped off the page at me. I didn't know what it meant. It means me, I'm a helper. I've been like this most of my life. As for spiritual gifts I'm not sure what mine is called. I guess they're the Word of Knowledge and less frequently the word of Wisdom. Some people think I'm psychic but I'm not. I can't control when I get knowledge, I can't use it for myself, it functions as the Holy Spirit wants it to. I guess this is how I know when a person is lying to me. I can feel it. So I want to help this guy with the sick wife but I don't know how bc he constantly lies to me.

I thank you if you read this post. I'm just very lonely today.

[Guest]

On ‎8‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 5:09 AM, JTC said:

Unfortunately I'm probably never gonna work again. First of all I am 65 but that's not the reason. I can barely walk nor can I stand up much longer than 20 mins and then pain starts in my legs. So why is this, that's what I want to know. In 2002 the right side of my body went numb and at first they thought I had MS. Maybe I do. But a team of neurologists finally concluded I don't have MS I have Demyelinating disease. Both have almost the same symptoms but whereas MS is progressive Demyelinating disease isn't supposed to be. In 2010 I went to spinal specialist who sent me for a Lumbar MRI. He said my back is "a mess" but there was nothing he could do surgery on. I can't find the MRI report but there were 2 herniated discs. Also called degenerative disc disease. There was also mild spinal stenosis. That was 2010. Spinal stenosis is progressive and in the last 7 years my legs keep feeling weaker and I can barely walk. I'm also progressively more bent over. I can no longer stand straight up and it keeps getting worse. So I can forget working. It's a pity because until 2012 I was driving a Taxi Cab and I loved doing that. I'm a great driver and I'm a people person. Cab drivers are similar to bartenders. Many people go in bars to talk to the bartender. Many taxi passengers also want someone they can talk to. A lot of drivers hate people and they don't want to hear your problems. But I was originally going to be a psychotherapist. I enjoy hearing problems. I also seem to have a burden for women that were sexually abused. God did this. I had many passengers who had been victims of sexual abuse. But it goes beyond even that. One night I was stopped for a light when a 24 yr old woman opened my back door and begged me to let her in. I wasn't supposed to do that. In this area, by law, you have to call for a cab. I could have gotten a huge fine for letting this girl in. But she was crying hysterically. Here's the story. She was at a dance club and went home with a guy who said he wanted her to hear his stereo. She believed him. Once he had in his apt he attempted to rape her. She fought him off and got out running and crying. That was when she saw my taxi. 90% of drivers would not have let her in, but I did. She was a 20 min ride so so she told me what happened. I calmed her down. I stayed with her until I had to go on another call.

I also had long talks with a lot of young people who were confused about God. One young woman came from a home where 1 parent was Catholic and the other protestant. This girl was genuinely confused concerning the Lord's Prayer. At the end of it we say to God "For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever." That was what Jesus taught in Matthew. However, in Luke Jesus left that line out. Well, this poor girl's parents had her so confused we worried that God would get mad at her and not listen to a word she said. She was in my cab about 40 minutes so we had a long talk. I convinced her that God doesn't care whether she says those words or not. God's concern is if she's praying sincerely or not. Her feeling was that she should say it, but this poor girl always had to remember which parent thought it was right to say it and which parent said she was sinning by saying it. Most of my fellow drivers wouldn't have even wanted to hear this. But God made sure she got me. I loved driving a cab so much sometimes I dream about it. But I can't do it anymore.

I know sometimes some people lie so as not to hurt feelings. Others lie bc they're feelings are so sensitive they fear if they tell the truth someone else will use it to hurt them. Some lie bc they're believing a lie themselves, some are aware of this others aren't. I have 1 family member left and although she's a cousin we grew up as if she was my sister. She's what you call a good egg. But she lies a lot and I'm usually aware of it. But I don't want to lose my last family member so I let her. I know this other man who may be a psychopath. He's not a good person and I only associate with him bc he's the only person who will ever give me a ride. However, I always have to pay him but he's cheaper than a cab. He has a common law wife he's been with 25 yrs. He was a junkie when he was young and she was like a mother to him. A mother he always lied to. Two yrs ago his wife had a stroke. Suddenly the table turned. Now she needs constant care. I'm surprised he's still with her. Remember, a person with psychopathy doesn't feel compassion like most of us do. That's what defines psychopathy. Apparently the doc's lead him to believe his wife would fully recover from the stroke. He expected her to return to work so she wouldn't know where he is and he could lie. But she's getting worse. He wants my help. He gets rage attacks and he makes her worse. Yesterday he was telling me he thinks she likes being sick. He's on the verge of leaving her. I suppose in his mind all he can think about is he has to care for her, and not get anything back, and this enrages him. One day I told him they should pray for God's help. So he lied to me. He told me they always pray. I know they don't. I don't even think he believes God is real. He went to HS with a distant cousin and that's why I know him. Normally I wouldn't concern myself with a man like him but he asked for my help.

When we become Christians most of us spend yrs wondering if we have a spiritual gift and do we have a ministry. I know I did. In 1 Corinthians 12:28 Paul says this. " And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues." When I first read that 30+ yrs ago the word helps practically jumped off the page at me. I didn't know what it meant. It means me, I'm a helper. I've been like this most of my life. As for spiritual gifts I'm not sure what mine is called. I guess they're the Word of Knowledge and less frequently the word of Wisdom. Some people think I'm psychic but I'm not. I can't control when I get knowledge, I can't use it for myself, it functions as the Holy Spirit wants it to. I guess this is how I know when a person is lying to me. I can feel it. So I want to help this guy with the sick wife but I don't know how bc he constantly lies to me.

I thank you if you read this post. I'm just very lonely today.

hi JTC

I just read through your post, and yes, I understand, we all have one of those days, I have plenty of those.

I am sorry to hear what is happening in terms of this guy you know, I pray God will be with you and bring right people into your life.

God bless

 

 

[kwikphilly]

Blessings JTC

    It can get frustrating....especially because most liars cannot keep their stories straight & even though they think they are fooling you-they aren't and more often than not we can tend to take it personally,thats where the problem is,imo    Okay,so we know a lie when we hear it-do we confront them about it,tuck it away in our back pocket & be aware until the right opportunity (maybe never?)  or let it eat away at us inside and get all bent out of shape? Brother,the first 2 are the only good choices.....we are not responsible for what others say or do but we are always accountable for ourselves.....Pray for therm,they need it!!! Forgive them as you have been forgiven & by all means remember that the offense is against God,not you

    I recently came across one of the worst liars I ever had the pleasure of knowing(lol)......the lies where not just told to me but also about me and many others that did not deserve it ,it bothered me and confronting the person didn't do very much ,they tried to lie their way out of lying,lol    It's not personal,the person desperately needs a Relationship with Jesus and its very easy to pray for the person & move on in forgiveness,I do hope they come into Reconciliation through Christ Jesus because the Wrath of God is much worse than anything here on earth......doesn't that make you feel Mercy & Compassion,there is no place in the KIngdom of God for a liar.......let us pray they Receive Jesus! I hope that helps keep your heart from hardening against  anyone                                                                                                                           With love-in Christ,Kwik     (keep telling the Truth and be happy you do not lie,you must have told a lie one time or another-I think everyone has?Its the devils favorite )