The World Today The Answers?

[RGR]

Nothing happens on the earth but by God's will.

Actually nothing in the whole universe happens but by God's will.

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But dont you think that there could have been some believers in Christ in Asia where the tsunami stuck...

Could have been...probably were.

...and wouldnt God save them as God had told Abraham when he asked God to spare Sadaam And Gamoram if he could find one righteous dont you think that there was one righteous one who believed and followed Christ?

Well, if it were the case that God spared Christians in every place where there was the loss of life, then there probably wouldn't be very many unbelievers on the earth. I think that it's more a matter of the way you view God's hand in these situations. Is God unrighteous for allowing believers to die with unbelievers? Or perhaps He is righteous because He allows believers to perish with the unbelieving....

The point is, we don't judge God according to our own sense of right and wrong. God's righteousness, His judgments, and His ability to work all things out for the good to those who are called according to His purpose, far transcend our own temporal understanding.

And do you think God Did this as punishment and justice and judgement for sin?

Well, that really is not my place to say one way or another, since God has not made the announcement publicly

Actually, it sort of rubs me the wrong way when certain religious leaders try to say that something like the Indonesian tsunami was a judgment from God. Who are they to speak on behalf of God in this way?!

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Do you believe it was judgement from God?

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As I wrote, it is not my place to judge one way or another. One thing is for certain, however: When God's wrath is poured out on the great day of His judgment, we will all know very clearly what it is and why.

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Well I will tell you what I know it was God and as this may seem as if I blaspheme or I try to speak for God I do not but make no mistake it was Gods Judgement.

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God's judgment on whom, exactly?

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On the unjust and the wicked now could there have been some believers there possibly but just as God did in Sadaam & Gamoram He did the same there that was not mother nature but was Gods judgement to the unrighteous.

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Then why did God choose that location where that the gospel is now starting to make inroads (check out Gospel For Asia) instead of our country where that people know of Him but refuse to follow Him? We're more to be likened to Sodom and Gomorrah than that region of the world. The Bible says it rains on the just and the unjust both-don't try to speak for God when He hasn't announced it Himself!

[Ovedya]

On the unjust and the wicked now could there have been some believers there possibly but just as God did in Sadaam & Gamoram He did the same there that was not mother nature but was Gods judgement to the unrighteous.

Exactly who were the unjust and the wicked in Indonesia that deserved God's judgment any more than the unjust and the wicked in, say, Las Vegas?

[ben34]

Nothing happens on the earth but by God's will.

Actually nothing in the whole universe happens but by God's will.

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But dont you think that there could have been some believers in Christ in Asia where the tsunami stuck...

Could have been...probably were.

...and wouldnt God save them as God had told Abraham when he asked God to spare Sadaam And Gamoram if he could find one righteous dont you think that there was one righteous one who believed and followed Christ?

Well, if it were the case that God spared Christians in every place where there was the loss of life, then there probably wouldn't be very many unbelievers on the earth. I think that it's more a matter of the way you view God's hand in these situations. Is God unrighteous for allowing believers to die with unbelievers? Or perhaps He is righteous because He allows believers to perish with the unbelieving....

The point is, we don't judge God according to our own sense of right and wrong. God's righteousness, His judgments, and His ability to work all things out for the good to those who are called according to His purpose, far transcend our own temporal understanding.

And do you think God Did this as punishment and justice and judgement for sin?

Well, that really is not my place to say one way or another, since God has not made the announcement publicly

Actually, it sort of rubs me the wrong way when certain religious leaders try to say that something like the Indonesian tsunami was a judgment from God. Who are they to speak on behalf of God in this way?!

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Do you believe it was judgement from God?

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As I wrote, it is not my place to judge one way or another. One thing is for certain, however: When God's wrath is poured out on the great day of His judgment, we will all know very clearly what it is and why.

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Well I will tell you what I know it was God and as this may seem as if I blaspheme or I try to speak for God I do not but make no mistake it was Gods Judgement.

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God's judgment on whom, exactly?

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On the unjust and the wicked now could there have been some believers there possibly but just as God did in Sadaam & Gamoram He did the same there that was not mother nature but was Gods judgement to the unrighteous.

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Then why did God choose that location where that the gospel is now starting to make inroads (check out Gospel For Asia) instead of our country where that people know of Him but refuse to follow Him? We're more to be likened to Sodom and Gomorrah than that region of the world. The Bible says it rains on the just and the unjust both-don't try to speak for God when He hasn't announced it Himself!

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Yes the bible says that and can you not see it happening here we are foolishly blinded by what we are taught to believe and we do not seek God we do not see the wrath of God being poured upon man which God has been doing so for centuries even in Israel and God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years it was because of sin and God killed some those even some of those who believed on the way to the promise land because of sin.

[RGR]

Ah now! Brother, you broke up the quote thing we had going-I've forgotten how many quotes we can get into one quote, lol!

[RGR]

God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years

Who's on first? What's on second?

[Ovedya]

Yes the bible says that and can you not see it happening here we are foolishly blinded by what we are taught to believe and we do not seek God we do not see the wrath of God being poured upon man which God has been doing so for centuries even in Israel and God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years it was because of sin and God killed some those even some of those who believed on the way to the promise land because of sin.

How come God hasn't destroyed Las Vegas, or New Amsterdam?

And who exactly are YOU that you presume to speak on behalf of God in such matters as His judgments?

[Ovedya]

God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years

Who's on first? What's on second?

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I dunno.........

THIRD BASE!

[RGR]

Yes the bible says that and can you not see it happening here we are foolishly blinded by what we are taught to believe and we do not seek God we do not see the wrath of God being poured upon man which God has been doing so for centuries even in Israel and God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years it was because of sin and God killed some those even some of those who believed on the way to the promise land because of sin.

How come God hasn't destroyed Las Vegas, or New Amsterdam?

And who exactly are YOU that you presume to speak on behalf of God in such matters as His judgments?

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Ben,

I have to agree here. When someone starts thinking they are the ONLY ONE who is speaking for God, we're bordering on cultish thinking. I don't mean to imply that is where you are at, but it's not as far a step as you think.

[ben34]

God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years

Who's on first? What's on second?

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I dunno.........

THIRD BASE!

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You see it was this sort of thing that led to the death of Christ for when Christ went to Jerusalem they asked him the same. by what authority do you have to say that i do not speak for God whom has given me truth.

[RGR]

God did not judge Israel because they were Israel when they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years

Who's on first? What's on second?

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I dunno.........

THIRD BASE!

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You see it was this sort of thing that led to the death of Christ for when Christ went to Jerusalem they asked him the same. by what authority do you have to say that i do not speak for God whom has given me truth.

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Ben, by chance do you want to tell us about people playing town? I think you've been to the infamous Voice of God Teaching School.