The Failure of the Prosperity Gospel Illustrated During Harvey

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11 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

None of us have "the DNA of a winner."  We all have the DNA of a SINNER!  All of Osteen's weak platitudes and glee club catch phrases have both pride and greed as their root motivation.

Osteen was not "called."  His mother passed the ministry on to him after his father's death and he has absolutely no formal training when it comes to being a Pastor.

He has openly stated that he will not deal with the issue of sin from the pulpit.  He refuses to answer specific questions about sin, or always answers "I don't know."

He is a Universalist.  He believes everyone is saved no matter what they do or who they do or do not worship.

He teaches that God's purpose for us is to be wealthy and physically well and we get that by blackmailing God into action with magical words and phrases.

Explain to me which one of those doctrines are biblical. 

He studied in Oral Roberts University who was a wolve as well.

Edited September 17, 2017 by Guest

[Denadii]

2 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

None of us have "the DNA of a winner."  We all have the DNA of a SINNER!  All of Osteen's weak platitudes and glee club catch phrases have both pride and greed as their root motivation.

Osteen was not "called."  His mother passed the ministry on to him after his father's death and he has absolutely no formal training when it comes to being a Pastor.

He has openly stated that he will not deal with the issue of sin from the pulpit.  He refuses to answer specific questions about sin, or always answers "I don't know."

He is a Universalist.  He believes everyone is saved no matter what they do or who they do or do not worship.

He teaches that God's purpose for us is to be wealthy and physically well and we get that by blackmailing God into action with magical words and phrases.

Explain to me which one of those doctrines are biblical. 

I have the DNA of a winner" is true and biblical   It most certainly is.  We have to Holy Spirit living inside of us..Part and parcel with us.  I know.  You'll say the Holy Spirit is spirit thus has no DNA   Wrong!   Spirit DNA is just as much DNA as physical.  Its just a different kind.

You say " We all have the DNA of a SINNER! "  Show me that one in the bible.  The bible says the man that was a sinner died!  Then it says the man was born again an entire new creation.   Of course you don't have to believe the Word.

And we WERE created in the image of God.

So far it appears that you are spouting false doctrine my friend.  You need to get into the Word and find out what it really says.

 

[Denadii]

8 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

You have never listened to him but you defend him? Where is the wisdom in THAT?

You dont have first hand knowledge of what he teaches so you are in no position to defend him OR call him called by God! That is just plain ludicrous !!

I'm asking YOU what Osteen says that is so wrong?  That's not defense. I'm pointing out that you are doing stuff wrong.  That's not defense.

[Denadii]

10 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

None of us have "the DNA of a winner."  We all have the DNA of a SINNER!  All of Osteen's weak platitudes and glee club catch phrases have both pride and greed as their root motivation.

Osteen was not "called."  His mother passed the ministry on to him after his father's death and he has absolutely no formal training when it comes to being a Pastor.

He has openly stated that he will not deal with the issue of sin from the pulpit.  He refuses to answer specific questions about sin, or always answers "I don't know."

He is a Universalist.  He believes everyone is saved no matter what they do or who they do or do not worship.

He teaches that God's purpose for us is to be wealthy and physically well and we get that by blackmailing God into action with magical words and phrases.

Explain to me which one of those doctrines are biblical. 

Weak platitudes indeed.  If he would put scripture with it, you would have no problem.

1   I am a child of God (Romans 8:16)
2   I am Redeemed from the hand of the enemy (Psalm 107:2)
3   I am Forgiven (Colossians 1:13,14)
4   I am Saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8)
5   I am Justified (Romans 5:1)
6   I am Sanctified (1 Corinthians 6:11)
7   I am a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17)
8   I am partaker of His Divine Nature (2 Peter 1:4)
9   I am redeemed from the curse of the Law (Galatians 3:13)
10   I am delivered from the powers of darkness (Colossians 1:13)
11   I am led by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:14)
12   I am a son of God (Romans 8:14)
13   I am kept in safety wherever I go (Psalm 91:11)
14   I am getting all my needs met by Jesus (Philippians 4:19)
15   I am casting all my cares upon Jesus (1 Peter 5:7)
16   I am strong in the Lord and in the power of His might (Ephesians 6:10)
17   I am doing all things through Christ who strengthens me (Philippians
      4:13)
18   I am an heir of God and a joint-heir with Jesus (Romans 8:17)
19   I am heir to the blessings of Abraham (Galatians 3:13,14)
20   I am observing and doing the Lord's Commandments (Deut 28:12)
21   I am blessed coming in and out (Deut 28:6)
22   I am an heir to eternal life (1 John 5:11,12)
23 I am blessed with all spiritual blessings (Ephesians 1:3)
24 I am healed by His stripes (1 Peter 2:24)
25 I am exercising my authority over the enemy (Luke 10:19)
26 I am above only and not beneath (Deut 28:13)
27 I am more than a conqueror (Romans 8:37)
28 I am establishing God's Word here on earth (Matthew 16:19)
29 I am an overcomer by the blood of the Lamb and Word of my testimony
    (Revelation 12:11)
30 I am daily overcoming the devil (1 John 4:4)
31 I am not moved by what I see (2 Corinthians 4:18)
32 I am walking by faith and not by sight (2 Corinthians 5:7)
33 I am casting down vain imaginations (1 Corinthians 10:4,5)
34 I am bringing every thought into captivity (2 Corinthians 10:5)
35 I am being transformed by a renewed mind (Romans 12:1,2)
36 I am a laborer together with God (1 Corinthians 3:9)
37 I am the righteousness of God in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21)
38 I am an imitator of Jesus (Ephesians 5:1)
39 I am the light of the world (Matthew 5:14)
40 I am sanctified (purified; consecrated) Heb 2:11 / 10:10
41 I am blessing the Lord at all times and continually praising the Lord with
     my mouth Psa. 34:1
42 I am loved... therefore I can love. 1John 4:19
43 I am accepted in The Beloved Eph. 1:6
44 I am His workmanship, created in Jesus, the anointed, unto the good
works, which He has planned for me to do. Eph 2:10
45 I am rich in all things good. 2 Cor. 8:9
46 I am crowned with loving kindness and tender mercies.
      Psalms. 103:4
47 I am the temple of the Living God. He lives in me. 2 Cor: 6:16
48 I am living by faith Rom. 1:17
49 I am blessed, because I believe God's Word Lu. 1; 37-45
50 I am holy for I trust in, and rely on Him Psa. 86
51 I am fearfully and wonderfully made Psalm 139:14
52 I am free from the law of sin and death in Christ.(The Anointed One and
       His Anointing) Romans 8:2

53 I am free of all guilt in the anointing. Romans 8:1

54 I cannot be separated from the Love of God. Romans 8:39

55 I am triumphant in the anointing 2 Corinthians 2:14

56 I have been raised up to sit in heavenly places Ephesians 2:6

57 I am called with a holy calling  2 Timothy 1:9

58 I dwell in God and God dwells in be because of the anointing 1John 4:16

59 I am the head and not the tail Deuteronomy 28:13
I believe that the words "I Am" are two of the most powerful words a believer can say because they will lock them in with the Father. God is therefore I am. Claiming these promises these words of the bible will have the effect of clarifying (perfecting) our awareness of our identity with Divinity which conceives and controls all the details of our lives by faith.

I don't know about the rest of it.  Its all hearsay.  Not admissible.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Denadii said:

I'm asking YOU what Osteen says that is so wrong?  That's not defense. I'm pointing out that you are doing stuff wrong.  That's not defense.

I can count 4 examples given already . Why dont you see them?

 

[Denadii]

1 minute ago, Blueyedjewel said:

I can count 4 examples given already . Why dont you see them?

 

Its not my job to judge any man called by God.   I'm saying that what you've said is nothing but hearsay.    

[Denadii]

Now if you don't mind...I did not join this forum to fight with so called Christians who say they share in love but don't.

[Guest]

Just now, Denadii said:

Its not my job to judge any man called by God.   I'm saying that what you've said is nothing but hearsay.    

I thought you JUST SAID that you have never listened to him? How do you know he is called by God? Is it his pretty smile and his 10 million dollar house that tipped you off? LOL

You dont have any experience or research to back up your words. How smart is that? LOL

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3 minutes ago, Denadii said:

Now if you don't mind...I did not join this forum to fight with so called Christians who say they share in love but don't.

We did! We fight with so called christians to DEFEND THE TRUTH!

[Guest]

Just now, Cobalt1959 said:

He has a degree, but he has never taken even the most rudimentary courses such as hermeneutics, Bible book surveys, etc.  His degree is in communications and media because he started out running the churches media like TV and radio.  He has no biblical training at all.

I was agreeing with you and providing info to strengthen the claim