God judging Nations, Russia first.

[Marilyn C]

35 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

I argue that Russia began to use the Bear symbol after being demonized as the Bear in 16th century [they accepted the bear and used it as a kinda quip back at nations, "so you call us bear, fine we will maul you and defeat you as great USSR!"), but it was not an indigenous symbol of Russa as in case of America using a bald eagle or England using the Lion. 

Hi Fidei,

Thanks for that. However as you said it is how the world sees Russia. Also this info is very interesting -

As far back as 1982 the Soviet Union had planned to invade Israel. This was exposed by the Israeli army.

 

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the State of Israel reports, -

"During the operation "Peace for Galilee", as the Israeli forces advanced through Lebanon in July 1982, they made an amazing discovery. Around the Village of Saida, the largest secret military base in the world was uncovered.

It consisted of miles of steel reinforced bunkers tunneled out of the hillside. Inside was crammed massive quantities of Soviet made arms and ammuni­tion. It exceeded by far the highest previous intelligence esti­mates.

 

I.D.F. units gathered 4170 tons (some 1,500 truckloads) of

- ammunition;

- hundreds of combat-vehicles;

- tanks and ar­moured carriers;

- thousands of weapons,

- artillery and rocket launchers,

- plus other sophisticated devices.

 

Secret documents and maps found in the Com­mand Post clearly revealed that the Soviets planned invasion of the Middle East on the 4th August 1982. The I.D.F. averted this Soviet invasion by just a few weeks"

 

This was a great intervention by God. Now the Russian war will not start until, and only until God says so, when He puts `…hooks into (his) jaws.` (Ez. 38: 4) And that day is fast approaching as we can see.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

[Marilyn C]

Here is an interesting video by Gary Stearman - `Gary`s commentary on Israel`s Air Strike on Syria.` 

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SHHXlitY6xA

 

[Fidei Defensor]

7 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Fidei,

Thanks for that. However as you said it is how the world sees Russia. Also this info is very interesting -

As far back as 1982 the Soviet Union had planned to invade Israel. This was exposed by the Israeli army.

 

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the State of Israel reports, -

"During the operation "Peace for Galilee", as the Israeli forces advanced through Lebanon in July 1982, they made an amazing discovery. Around the Village of Saida, the largest secret military base in the world was uncovered.

It consisted of miles of steel reinforced bunkers tunneled out of the hillside. Inside was crammed massive quantities of Soviet made arms and ammuni­tion. It exceeded by far the highest previous intelligence esti­mates.

 

I.D.F. units gathered 4170 tons (some 1,500 truckloads) of

- ammunition;

- hundreds of combat-vehicles;

- tanks and ar­moured carriers;

- thousands of weapons,

- artillery and rocket launchers,

- plus other sophisticated devices.

 

Secret documents and maps found in the Com­mand Post clearly revealed that the Soviets planned invasion of the Middle East on the 4th August 1982. The I.D.F. averted this Soviet invasion by just a few weeks"

 

This was a great intervention by God. Now the Russian war will not start until, and only until God says so, when He puts `…hooks into (his) jaws.` (Ez. 38: 4) And that day is fast approaching as we can see.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

The world may see Russia as Bear, but the point is that is not there symbol of choice. Should we say, the Muslim world sees America as the Great Satan and so the US should have a Satan statue with red hot poker for America since that's America's symbol in eyes of the Muslim world (which is growing to be most of world by birth rates alone) and the anticolonial movement all over world? Not at all. Nationalistic symbols are chosen, not given. 

Interesting information, although is it possible Russia was framed by Arabs who lie (Taqiyya)? I mean lots of people in the US are sure Pres. Asad in Syria is evil, but he is an Awadee Muslim (basically lukewarm, like Druids) and in his control territory there is freedom of religion, but outside his territory Christians are crucified in the streets. Asad says he is being framed by his enemies when reports come out about his use of chemical weapons and etc.  I am not accusing Israelis of fabricating Russia's plans to invade, but what if Arabs wanted to pit Russia against Israel, a self fulfilling prophecy? 

Besides Russia supplies arms (AK-47s) to everyone from Afghanistan to Africa to Burma and beyond,  

Edited September 28, 2017 by Fidei Defensor

[vlad]

10 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi vlad,

Now I know that often when God is speaking of names, He refers to their origin. Thus I have looked into the Hebrew meaning of the words -

Gog - Heb. `Gowg, Gog, the name of an Israelite also of some northern nation.

Magog - Heb. `Magowg, Magog, a son of Japheth, also a northern region.

regards, Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

 Thank you for the letter. Descendants of the sons of Japheth means peoples of Europe, right?

[Marilyn C]

Just now, vlad said:

Hi Marilyn,

 Thank you for the letter. Descendants of the sons of Japheth means peoples of Europe, right?

Hi vlad,

I would say that also. And we know that they spread over a wide area, even to the northern quarter as God`s word says.

regards, Marilyn.

[Marilyn C]

54 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

The world may see Russia as Bear, but the point is that is not there symbol of choice. Should we say, the Muslim world sees America as the Great Satan and so the US should have a Satan statue with red hot poker for America since that's America's symbol in eyes of the Muslim world (which is growing to be most of world by birth rates alone) and the anticolonial movement all over world? Not at all. Nationalistic symbols are chosen, not given. 

Interesting information, although is it possible Russia was framed by Arabs who lie (Taqiyya)? I mean lots of people in the US are sure Pres. Asad in Syria is evil, but he is an Awadee Muslim (basically lukewarm, like Druids) and in his control territory there is freedom of religion, but outside his territory Christians are crucified in the streets. Asad says he is being framed by his enemies when reports come out about his use of chemical weapons and etc.  I am not accusing Israelis of fabricating Russia's plans to invade, but what if Arabs wanted to pit Russia against Israel, a self fulfilling prophecy? 

Besides Russia supplies arms (AK-47s) to everyone from Afghanistan to Africa to Burma and beyond,  

Hi Fidei,

There is none righteous, no not one, as we know God`s word tells us.  And we know that the whole world lies in the sway of the wicked one. Thus everyone will be judged, (outside of Christ) and the nations of the earth, also, will be judged when they form a final Gentile World Rulership.

I used to play chess. Now let`s think for a moment of a few moves.

1. The Russian Federation, plus Iran, Ethiopia and Libya, come down to the mountains of Israel and are dealt with by God.

2. This leaves a power vacuum in the Middle East. So who do you think will fill that?

3. The fourth beast of Daniel 7 is so terrifying, that it treads down the other Federations. So who could that be?

Any thoughts? Marilyn. 

[Ogner]

12 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

The order is not to do with how wicked, as all are under the sway of the evil one, but has to do with how they treat Israel

How could you preach this heresy? Why would you even think that? 

The order is not to do with how wicked, as all are under the sway of the evil one, but has to do with how they treat Jesus. 

[vlad]

13 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi vlad,

Now I know that often when God is speaking of names, He refers to their origin. Thus I have looked into the Hebrew meaning of the words -

Gog - Heb. `Gowg, Gog, the name of an Israelite also of some northern nation.

Magog - Heb. `Magowg, Magog, a son of Japheth, also a northern region.

regards, Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

May be that will be of interest to you.

1.To the North of the Black Sea there were Greek colonies.

2.Some Germanic people known as Goths had been living in the Caucasus (the 4^th century AD, that is of our era) and later moved to the North of the Black Sea

3.Kievan Rus (later called Russia) was founded many centuries later mainly by the princes and the people of Germanic origin (Ross) : Rurik (real name Hrorh), Sineus, Truvor, Ascold and others. Hence such modern Russian names as Oleg (Haleg), Olga (Helga), Igor (Ingvar) and so on. There is some material on Kievan Rus on the Internet.

The question is who was living to the North of the Black Sea at that time (we are talking about)? From what I know there were mainly people of Scythian origin and there were some small Greek colonies. That could not have been a threat.

Edited September 28, 2017 by vlad

[Ogner]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

The Russian Federation, plus Iran, Ethiopia and Libya, come down to the mountains of Israel and are dealt with by God.

USA has too many ties with enemies of Israel.
Whose idea was it to conclude an agreement with Iran?
Who's the best friend of Saudi Arabia and Turkey? 

Israeli defense minister says ISIS funded with ‘Turkish money’

Israel’s defense minister has alleged that the Islamic State terror group has long been funded with “Turkish money.”
"As you know, Daesh (Islamic State, previously ISIS/ISIL) enjoyed Turkish money for oil for a very, very long period of time. I hope that it will be ended," Moshe Yaalon told reporters in Athens on Tuesday after meeting his Greek counterpart, Panos Kammenos, Reuters reports.

"It's up to Turkey, the Turkish government, the Turkish leadership, to decide whether they want to be part of any kind of cooperation to fight terrorism. This is not the case so far," he said.

Yaalon’s counterpart, Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos, made similar statements, saying that a large part of the Islamic State’s oil trade, as well as the financing of terror, is going through Turkey.

Earlier, Russia had accused Turkey of shady dealings with ISIS. In December, the Russian Defense Ministry released maps and satellite images it said proved that Turkey was the main consumer of oil smuggled out of Syria and Iraq by the terrorists. The ministry also claimed that the Turkish president and his family were involved in the criminal dealings.

In December, Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar al-Ja’afari also accused Turkey of supporting terrorist groups. The diplomat appealed to the UN, urging it to end Ankara’s "violations and crimes."

Turkey has denied the accusations, while the United States last month rejected Russia’s claims that the Turkish leadership was linked to ISIS oil smuggling.

https://www.rt.com/news/330204-israel-turkey-isis-oil/

Turkey - a long standing NATO member and close American ally. 

USA is supporting Turkey is supporting ISIS. 

And USA is criticizing Russia on intervening in Syria to wipe out ISIS. 

[Ogner]

3 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

3. The fourth beast of Daniel 7 is so terrifying, that it treads down the other Federations. So who could that be?

Putin loves the Jewish people.
For example (2015 December), This year Hanukkah is celebrated from December 6th to December 14th. Yesterday Vladimir Putin met Alexander Boroda, the president of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia, and Berel Lazar, Chief Rabbi of Russia, and wished all Jews happy Hanukkah. A few days earlier in the Moscow Region the new Jewish community center ‘Zhukovka’ was opened. The complex has become the largest community-based center in Russia built in the last 15 years. All the necessary facilities for worship and community life are present: male and female prayer rooms, special ritual baths, a kosher restaurant, a banquet hall and a lecture hall will be located on two floors of the complex, designed by a British architectural firm commissioned by the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia. It also provides hotel rooms for those wishing to spend the Sabbath. View the full article

Russian President Vladimir Putin lit the Chanukah Menorah for the first night of Chanukah! (2015 December)

Ever seen Obama participating in Hanukkah celebrations? The French president, the U.K. prime Minister, the German Chancellor, all European Prime Ministers and Presidents, and of course Obama do not have the guts or courtesy to do this for fear of upsetting some or other Iranian, Iraqi, member of ISIS or any other Muslim. Putin is obviously Not Jewish but lighting candles goes a long way with the Jewish community and Israel. 

Putin is like Donald Trump loves the Jewish people.