When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: Pride is unbecoming. Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Having a high iq doesnt guarantee you have any real smarts. After all someone as smart as stephen hawking doesnt grasp that he needs Jesus. I know but that does't help answer the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, LadyKay said: Have you tried Google? Of course but that is my point, the evidence doesn't exist. I would just like one person here to understand what I am explaining. Who will be the first? I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 7 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said: find me some evidence that the current 7 day rolling week goes all the way back to Adam? Or at least beyond the Julian calendar, that we now call the Gregorian calendar. This calendar was introduced by Julius Caesar in 46BC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendarWhen this new calendar was created it was for the express reason that there were hundreds of different calendars that were being used across the Roman Empire and Julius want to standardise them so that arranging meetings and making plans with the various leaders and people groups would be much easier. Now up to then the Romans were using a calendar with an 8 day rolling week:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendarOnly the Romans were using this 8 day week calendar in the province of Rome within Italy, only! Meanwhile the Israelites had been using there own 7 day week calendar for hundreds of years before the Romans ever existed. So how did the two different calendar weeks get to match up perfectly? Did the Roman's use the Jewish timing of their weekly cycle? Did they use this obscure religious sects timing, a group of people who lived over a 1000 miles away. Who were only known as one of the most troublesome groups within the Roman Empire? Greek mathematician Sosigenes who Julius Caesar employed to create the new calendar simply removed one of the 8 days (Market day) from the old Roman calendar just as history records, so the chances of the current 7 day week matching the Jewish week is only a 1 in 7 chance. Are you able to find the evidence that Sosigenes got these two different calendar weeks to match up? Israel has been observing the same day as the Sabbath for 4,000 years. It started when God gave a double portion of manna on the Seventh day. Furthermore, going back in time, all cultures had calendars of some kind due not only the harvest but international trade and commerce. So any notion that we simply don't know what the seven-day week really is, is just nonsense. Jesus never accused the Jews of observing the wrong day as the Sabbath, either. So we can be sure that we are on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,257 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 16,674 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2017 Jesus said that only the Father knows the answer to your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said: To me this is very simple to understand but getting others to seems nigh on impossible but then again my IQ is about 140 so forgive me if I sound exasperated. For by the grace what was given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.Romans 12:3 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.Proverbs 16:18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 28, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 11 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Israel has been observing the same day as the Sabbath for 4,000 years. It started when God gave a double portion of manna on the Seventh day. Furthermore, going back in time, all cultures had calendars of some kind due not only the harvest but international trade and commerce. So any notion that we simply don't know what the seven-day week really is, is just nonsense. Jesus never accused the Jews of observing the wrong day as the Sabbath, either. So we can be sure that we are on the right track. Yes of course Jesus observed the Sabbath on the correct day on the Calendar the Jews used, which was the same Sabbath that God established. However, I'm talking about the Julian calendar which is what the OP explained. You did not understand the OP. Is there no one here who has the intelligence to understand it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 28, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 11 hours ago, Willa said: Jesus said that only the Father knows the answer to your question. You did not understand the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 28, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 21 hours ago, Yowm said: Why should they? A solar year is 365 days +1 added every four years. That is not divisible evenly by 52 (7 day week) or 45 (8 day week). Whatever way a nation wants to divide the earth's orbit around the sun (1 year) the weeks will be an irregular number. If there was no wobble, we could divide the 360 deg orbit into 12 months each consisting of 30 days giving us 360. But still, where would that leave us when we try dividing the 360 days into weeks of 7 days each? 365/7 = 52.1428571 and yet 360/8= 45, thus it appears the Roman system was implemented thinking they had a workable even system but had no idea of that 1/4 day per year discrepancy. He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time. (Dan 7:25) You did not understand the OP. I'm not talking about anything you've mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Just now, When Is Jesus Coming? said: Yes of course Jesus observed the Sabbath on the correct day on the Calendar the Jews used, which was the same Sabbath that God established. However, I'm talking about the Julian calendar which is what the OP explained. You did not understand the OP. Is there no one here who has the intelligence to understand it? The Julian calendar was in effect throughout the Roman empire around 40 BC. So the Julian calendar was being used, even in the province of Judea by the time of Christ and so the Sabbath that God established for Israel was being observed on the correct day even on the Julian calendar. The Jews had more than one calendar that coincided with the worldly calendars. It appears that you are trying to manufacture a problem that doesn't exist. Typical of false teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 28, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: The Julian calendar was in effect throughout the Roman empire around 40 BC. So the Julian calendar was being used, even in the province of Judea by the time of Christ and so the Sabbath that God established for Israel was being observed on the correct day even on the Julian calendar. The Jews had more than one calendar that coincided with the worldly calendars. It appears that you are trying to manufacture a problem that doesn't exist. Typical of false teachers. There is no evidence that the Jews or Jesus used the Julian calendar, not until 359 AD. If however you can show me some evidence they were using it as you say then please show me. I would be happy to accept any evidence you can find. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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