Psalms37:4 Posted November 8, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 569 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 75 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2017 15 hours ago, Last Daze said: I think a lot of confusion arises from everyone using a common set of terminology and applying different definitions to those terms, especially when it comes to tribulation, great tribulation, wrath, and all of the prefixes attached to them. See now you speak good words of wisdom when you're not arguing with me. LOL! j/k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psalms37:4 Posted November 8, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 569 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 75 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 11/6/2017 at 10:41 PM, Sister said: It all has to be in God's timing, and the trouble will start according to Jeremiah chapter 25, when the 70 yrs is up. This statement is actually correct. There's only a small number of scriptures in the entire bible that pinpoints the year at which the tribulation will begin. This is one of them. Good to see someone else knows about this prophecy and recognizes the timing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said: Okay, let me just clarify this. You believe the 144,000 are sealed after the tribulation because you see these two verses as parallels, is this correct? Matthew 24:29 New King James Version (NKJV) 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Revelation 6:12-13 New King James Version (NKJV) 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Exactly. And both corespond to the abomination that causes desolation. This is the man who causes the heavens to depart from the earth as a scroll being rolled together.They are nuclear missiles falling. http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm At that time the 144,000 are sealed. http://biblehub.com/daniel/12-1.htm What you would call great tribulation. The only point I was trying to make with this thread was to show the 144,000 do suffer tribulation . 3 1/2 years of persecution. Edited November 8, 2017 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted November 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said: See now you speak good words of wisdom when you're not arguing with me. LOL! j/k. Haha. Perception is a funny thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psalms37:4 Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 569 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 75 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 14 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: Exactly. And both corespond to the abomination that causes desolation. This is the man who causes the heavens to depart from the earth as a scroll being rolled together.They are nuclear missiles falling. http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm At that time the 144,000 are sealed. http://biblehub.com/daniel/12-1.htm What you would call great tribulation. The only point I was trying to make with this thread was to show the 144,000 do suffer tribulation . 3 1/2 years of persecution. How are you at accepting correction? You willing to hear something different from what you thought? Quote They are nuclear missiles falling. This however is correct, partially. The stars falling to earth in Matthew 24:29 are missiles and rockets. All the stars John wrote of in Revelation are not actual stars. It's a figurative term. I think everyone knows what can happen if a real star collided with the earth. This is an image of an unarmed Minuteman III nuclear missile launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base. They look like stars falling from the sky. But not all stars in Revelation are actually rockets and missiles either. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/447686019180440144/ During the tribulation, there will be a lot of rockets and missiles flying across the sky. Some nuclear too. In Israel's next war (just before the start of the tribulation), just two of Israel's many enemies she will be fighting "soon" has over 250,000 rockets and missile targeted and readily aimed at Israel. Don't worry, she has the iron dome. Let's hope it works well. And she will win the war with help from the US, however will suffer huge casualties during the battles. It's in the bible. At the end it's a lot of good news. Major major good news ahead. The outcome will be as significant or better than the 6-Day war and the war of Independence of 1947-48. It's in the bible. This is for all the concerned viewers reading this, particularly those currently living in Israel. But I think you guys living there already know the war is coming soon. Hezbollah has 150,000 missiles pointed at Israel http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/203304 Iranian commander warns there are 100,000 missiles ready to strike Israel http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/04/iranian-commander-warns-there-are-100000-missiles-ready-to-strike-israel.html If you factor in all the countries of the world, particularly Russia and the US with it's insane stockpile, it's safe to say more than a million missiles and rockets will be flying across the sky during the tribulation, and some will be nuclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Psalms37:4 said: How are you at accepting correction? You willing to hear something different from what you thought? This however is correct, partially. The stars falling to earth in Matthew 24:29 are missiles and rockets. All the stars John wrote of in Revelation are not actual stars. It's a figurative term. I think everyone knows what can happen if a real star collided with the earth. This is an image of an unarmed Minuteman III nuclear missile launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base. They look like stars falling from the sky. But not all stars in Revelation are actually rockets and missiles either. During the tribulation, there will be a lot of rockets and missiles flying across the sky. Some nuclear too. In Israel's next war (just before the start of the tribulation), just two of Israel's many enemies she will be fighting "soon" has over 250,000 rockets and missile targeted and readily aimed at Israel. Don't worry, she has the iron dome. Let's hope it works well. And she will win the war with help from the US, however will suffer huge casualties during the battles. It's in the bible. At the end it's a lot of good news. Major major good news ahead. The outcome will be as significant or better than the 6-Day war and the war of Independence of 1947-48. It's in the bible. This is for all the concerned viewers reading this, particularly those currently living in Israel. But I think you guys living there already know the war is coming soon. Hezbollah has 150,000 missiles pointed at Israel http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/203304 Iranian commander warns there are 100,000 missiles ready to strike Israel http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/04/iranian-commander-warns-there-are-100000-missiles-ready-to-strike-israel.html If you factor in all the countries of the world, particularly Russia and the US with it's insane stockpile, it's safe to say more than a million missiles and rockets will be flying across the sky during the tribulation, and some will be nuclear. I'm quite sure the kings of the east(iran)will not cross the Euphrates in rt to Armageddon Israel till 3 1/2 years after the Israeli government has given all its residents the mark of the beast . We will see which comes first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said: after the Israeli government has given all its residents the mark of the beast . Nowhere, in no country , will the true followers of Jesus, Jewish first, then gentiles, accept the mark of the beast, even though most of the world is ready to, and some have found it acceptable and even "good" already... As in the last 2000 years, many of the true believers will be executed.... "we are being slaughtered like sheep all day" .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psalms37:4 Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 569 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 75 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, inchrist said: Matthew 24:29 heavenly bodies will be shaken.' People need to be on the alert of inchrist as he's known to take verses from the bible and add/change/alter the wordings when posting scriptures. 36 minutes ago, inchrist said: Weve seen this throughout earths history, they are called comets and they are referred to in the Bible as “stars” and as the “host of heaven.” During ancient times the word “star” was a generic term that meant any luminous body in the heavens. We've seen this throughout the year. You constantly make assumptions and can't find a single bible verse to cover your crazy ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keras Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,686 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 301 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1941 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, inchrist said: No its not. Nuclear weapons are not powerful enough to cause this type of global destruction. Even if all the nuclear bombs of the world were stacked together and simultaneously detonated, they couldn’t produce events of this magnitude. Matthew 24:29 heavenly bodies will be shaken.' You are correct. What is prophesied to happen is a cosmic event, instigated by the Lord. Psalms 11:4-6, Isaiah 63:1-6, + Isaiah30:26a tells us exactly what the Lord will use; the sun, His storehouse; Deuteronomy 32:34-35, and a massive explosion on the suns surface will literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. The world will never be the same again, as all that is prophesied to happen before the Return of Jesus takes place. Many websites will tell you what the effects of a big Coronal Mass Ejection, earth directed will do. A nuke explosion can't make the moon shine blood red, but a big, earth directed CME will and it will push aside the atmosphere facing the sun, like a scroll. logostelos.info Edited November 9, 2017 by Keras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted November 9, 2017 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2017 The stars of heaven are the angels that get kicked out of Heaven with satan,that's when the deception really hits,so the answer would be before. The stars are the 7000 that die the instant Christ returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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