A strong hand.

[Neighbor]

On 11/6/2017 at 8:06 PM, Wayne222 said:

         We need a mighty man. Someone in  power in the USA. To cut off violent movies. Porn on the inter net. Any kind even soft porn. There has to be laws to stop people from watching murders in movies that desensitized people. Also any and all violent video games. No shooting games allowed. I know it might step on the rights of others to be free to entertain themself with wickedness.  But who cares. This is what is feeding the minds of perverse people. That sends them into doing violence like this shooter in Texas. It going to wax worse and worse if the leadership does not put a end to perverted entertainment. They would be better off anyway. It will not stop 100 per cent but I am willing to bet after a generation there going to be a big difference. 

There is a big difference for sure at Iran. Perhaps the USA could follow that model?

Edited November 8, 2017 by Neighbor

[Neighbor]

More seriously perhaps; what "we" need is for each of us individually to be mightier in our testimony  of the gospel of Jesus, and in our walk, along with a greater kindness even in our sharing of our Lord's  faith.  The resources needed by evil to flourish so,will then dry up.  We do need I think, to step it up.

Individuals do need to speak up and also act. There is no need to tolerate the tv's in every retaurant showing  unchristian programming for example. I just ran into that one this week at a BBQ place. They were showing Big Bang Theory on their tv's as we ate. The captions were Blah blah blah.... Lesbians. Blah blah .... Lesbians.  Not appropriate period, but absolutely unacceptable for our young children dining with us. And so I have had to write a kindly worded letter of objection to the management of that chain, and I will not be able to dine there unless they do step up and monitor what they allow on the screens they insist on having above the tables. Small stuff really , but if multiplied in all of life's happenings there can be improvement in our surroundings.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Neighbor

[The_Patriot21]

What your suggesting is known as tyranny. And all power corrupts. The Romans tried what your suggesting...it didn't last. Because quite frankly you cannot legislate morality.

[Estrella]

Porn and violence are not the only problems of the society. There are many many other sins (big and small ones so to speak) that are all intertwined and linked to them and distinct from them. There are really deeper issues than just removing what's on the surface. We can have a strong man eliminating, controling and deciding what people can or can't do. But it is of no use because while this strong man may change what's external, he can't change what is in the hearts of men. By men i mean human beings as a whole.  I am not from America but in a country where certain things are banned here and anything promoting homosexuality are banned (beauty & the beast movie was almost banned due to some gay scenes). Yet, we still have transgenders and homosexuals around but they keep their identities hidden for fear of being ridiculed etc. This is in contrast with what's happening in US where they are in some ways free to practice this lifestyle. And this is just one of the many examples. Perhaps we can look at Saudi Arabia. Where the royalties aka strong man/men have hudud laws implemented and harsh punishments imposed for violations as deterrant for any immoral or wrong doing. And only recently saudi women are allowed to drive. 

Another thing is, what defines a "strong man"? What would guarantee that this supposedly strong man is really strong in and out? How would he be chosen? And who would monitor him? If he is "untouchable", then he is clear cut a dictator (eg. North Korea Leader). A  strong/mighty man is still a man nontheless, isn't immune from biasness/ favouritsm etc etc. Utopia is only possible when we are with Jesus in heaven. Utopia is in fact an understatement even then. Just sharing my thoughts and perspective.

[simplejeff]

10 minutes ago, Eastern Star said:

I am not from America but in a country where certain things are banned here and anything promoting homosexuality are banned (beauty & the beast movie was almost banned due to some gay scenes).

 

10 minutes ago, Eastern Star said:

when we are with Jesus in heaven.

Remember if and when you find ekklesia (an assembly of true believers)

that all sin is banned, including promoting any sin at all,  and thus also obviously no sexual perversion is permitted at all. (this is true all over the world, in ANY country, IF you find an assembly of true believers) ...

Also,  "when we are with Jesus in heaven",

in the worthychristianlibrary.com on this site by link or by the drop down menu upper left at "Worthy Network"

you can , Yahweh willing, seek and keep seeking , and thus truthfullly find those who are not with Jesus now,

AND those who ARE with Jesus now, today, on earth, as it is in heaven.  

Remember the forum is open to the whole world,  thus mostly to those who are "without Jesus",

but the library is already tested, proven and true in Scripture,

so you can potentially discover how to experience , in reality, in truth, "heaven" on earth - i.e. Yahweh's Kingdom - and Yahweh's Rule  (where HE is in charge) ....

[secretopossumcabal]

There's a reason why commies, cultural marxists and the satanists that inspire them do not like monarchies. Its because they produce strongmen and facilitate hierarchy, heaven is a hierarchy after all and the creature does not like it one bit, it enjoys egalitarianism because Satan is the ultimate Egalitarian and strongmen produce hierarchy which allows the kingdom of earth to somewhat simulate what's in heaven.

There's a reason why western culture has become so obsessed with the cult of victimhood, because the Creature uses that to promote egalitarianism, everyone is a victim now. It wants absolutely equality which will end in "i am God's equal".   

Trump is a last ditch effort, and I truly believe that Trump is being guided by providence, but I'm starting to think that we don't deserve him and like the israelites who killed their own prophets, most of the west is going to meet a similar sad fate because what we're going to do after he is gone is going to be terrible. 

But like some others have said, don't despair, we're the lucky ones. This world is finished but will be made anew, the Creature will have his short-term victory but just wait for the look on its face when its time has run out.

[secretopossumcabal]

On 11/6/2017 at 8:06 PM, Wayne222 said:

         We need a mighty man. Someone in  power in the USA. To cut off violent movies. 

I would like to add that the bible is very, very, VERY violent book. There is a massive amount of filth and violence in it, but it's there for good reason. I don't think banning violent movies is a good idea...violent movies like Lord of the Rings have Christian themes afterall. 

But porn should absolutely be outlawed and driven into underground markets. Nothing good has ever and will ever come from making porn easy and accessible. 

The fact that any kid can just flip open his phone right now and gain access to an entire world of filth in a mere 10 seconds is a horrible thought. 

[1to3]

5 hours ago, secretopossumcabal said:

I would like to add that the bible is very, very, VERY violent book. There is a massive amount of filth and violence in it, but it's there for good reason.

Yes I believe the bible is a learning book that shows us in  life historical stories what is right and what is wrong, where man goes right and where man goes wrong by his own actions and decisions especially when not looking to God for Guidance and also when looking to God for guidance.

The problem with so much violence in movies and tv and the media, is that, it does not give a very moral perspective like the bible does,  to finally choose right from wrong, it just promotes violent images, stories lines without much of a positive moral to the story line or image.   I hear people say that violence does not beget violence, but i see the contrary, the more violence that is shown in movies and tv, media the more we see in the actions of everyday world.

Somebody has to put a stop it. It can be done just people seem to have given up hope and seem to be resigned in a fate that looks quite bleak.

Yes God and His Word are the final outcome, but we who are here can still try to make a difference by leading by example. who we elect, who we vote for , who we promote and who we protest, how we ourselves live our lives. All that can make a difference. Doing nothing and just resigning oneself to accepting wrong things is not what i think God expects from His children. We are to be shinning lights, shining in His ways, in His truth and making a difference in whatever christian capacity we can.

 

[Estrella]

32 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

Yes I believe the bible is a learning book that shows us in  life historical stories what is right and what is wrong, where man goes right and where man goes wrong by his own actions and decisions especially when not looking to God for Guidance and also when looking to God for guidance.

The problem with so much violence in movies and tv and the media, is that, it does not give a very moral perspective like the bible does,  to finally choose right from wrong, it just promotes violent images, stories lines without much of a positive moral to the story line or image.   I hear people say that violence does not beget violence, but i see the contrary, the more violence that is shown in movies and tv, media the more we see in the actions of everyday world.

Somebody has to put a stop it. It can be done just people seem to have given up hope and seem to be resigned in a fate that looks quite bleak.

Yes God and His Word are the final outcome, but we who are here can still try to make a difference by leading by example. who we elect, who we vote for , who we promote and who we protest, how we ourselves live our lives. All that can make a difference. Doing nothing and just resigning oneself to accepting wrong things is not what i think God expects from His children. We are to be shinning lights, shining in His ways, in His truth and making a difference in whatever christian capacity we can.

 

Indeed. Most definitely. This is why Christians ought to be the "salt and light of the world" while we are here, and not "lukewarm" christians, neither hot nor cold.

[Wayne222]

7 hours ago, secretopossumcabal said:

I would like to add that the bible is very, very, VERY violent book. There is a massive amount of filth and violence in it, but it's there for good reason. I don't think banning violent movies is a good idea...violent movies like Lord of the Rings have Christian themes afterall. 

But porn should absolutely be outlawed and driven into underground markets. Nothing good has ever and will ever come from making porn easy and accessible. 

The fact that any kid can just flip open his phone right now and gain access to an entire world of filth in a mere 10 seconds is a horrible thought. 

Well true I was referring to movies that make murder look like fun and good for those incline. Like the Jason movies and other slasher movies. sher types. There thousands of them. Also movies on serial killers. It is like porn it drives people who don't have the spirit. Why push them into this .laws are made for the godless not for the righteous.