Who Is This Other Jesus Paul Warn Us About!

[Riccardo]

3 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Please tell me you don't see Sunday worship as the mark of the beast

HI Brother,

The mark of the beast is the beasts mark, if one can work out who or what is the beast, the next step is to find out does he declare to have a mark. 

& no i'm not going to get into it any more than that.

[other one]

43 minutes ago, Riccardo said:

 

Are you suggesting that Sabbath keepers must do animal sacrifices not drive a car etc. 

Did Jesus heal on the Sabbath, did he break Gods law or (man made regulations). 

If He broke Gods laws he is not our savior, but jus a sinner.

Just because one wants to hold to Gods ten commandments doesn't mean he is a legalist or has to adhered to old testament works & regulations .

I also am over the Sabbath issue as it has been flogged, not even non sabbath harmonize on why. Some DO say Sunday is their sabbath some do not.

Cheers brother.

  

if you start your car on the Sabbath you are kindling a fire an deserve stoning.

[frienduff thaylorde]

36 minutes ago, Riccardo said:

HI Brother,

The mark of the beast is the beasts mark, if one can work out who or what is the beast, the next step is to find out does he declare to have a mark. 

& no i'm not going to get into it any more than that.

Rather a key thing about the mark of the beast .   ya cant buy or sell UNLESS you have it.   so its not sunday worship.  cause if I worship on fri and sat

and hold the Sabbath not on sunday,  bro we can still buy and sell.

Nope.  the mark of the beast is RIGHT in front of our face and most deny this .    and most will  take and soon mark what was GODS only .

see we have been bought at  a price.  DID you know our temple  , yes even our own body is not our own.   But soon many will take and render unto ceasar

that which was GODS only .   THEY got it ready and yet most will soon take it .  not knowing that the key words were buy and sell.

RFID is all tied into buying and selling and soon the world with rome in league will ask us to offer unto ceasar Our temples unto rfid in the skin or said like tech.

YET most think this is A OKAY.  all the signs have never been so clear as to what these days are , and yet most say its always been like this  .  NO , its been evil yes

but not like this .    RICARDO.    no fear o man,  no fear of loss.  don't you take that nasty thing either in or on the skin.  DONT DO IT.

I warned you once DO not link Gods temple into a system of the beast .  the very system which mocks GOD , honors all evil

will ask man to trust in it , to render unto it the body and many will.    DONT DO IT RICARDO FREDRICO.     I don't know if that is your middle name

but my brothers name is Richard Fredrick.  and I always called him this as a nickname.  

[frienduff thaylorde]

16 minutes ago, other one said:

if you start your car on the Sabbath you are kindling a fire an deserve stoning.

The buffalo speaketh.   but actually no.   that would not be breaking Sabbath and JESUS made things very clear.

do not each one of you loose his donkey and beast to be watered on the Sabbath .  had that been a sin , I think he would have said so.

IF picking up your mat had been a sin on Sabbath , JESUS would not have broken the law to point to himself .  man was seeing things wrong.

The shew bread WAS for priests only.  but neither david nor the priests broke law when feeding david and those in need.  the law has to be rightly divided.

Their is a way to keep Sabbath holy.   I truly believe Sabbath is tied directly into KNOWING CHRIST.  I think that is our true rest.  For his burden is light and yoke easy.

However jews will keep Sabbath and we must never sway them otherwise.  In fact if among them we should honor it as do they.  we should avoid pork as do  they

this is to win the jews to Christ.  for neither eating meat nor not eating meat is the focus.   CHRIST , righteousness and holiness IS , JOY of the HOLY GHOST and joy of SALVATION.

Had the gentiles been ordered to hold jewish festivals , then the letter sent from the apostels would have said so.   However around any jew

around those who hold or esteem a day above another , we should live as do they to always do all to win all to Christ .  THIS does not include to SIN.  that is a lie from hell .

we don't sin as do the gentiles to win them.  We live righteously at all times by his power within.   but their will always be those who are weak in faith.

those we are to do as they do concerning meats, drinks days.  our liberty cannot be a stumbling block , for when we wound their conscious, we actually SIN against Christ .

we live and do all for the sake of the others.    I am fully persuaded about days meats and drinks.  but if any is not , we must live as do they in front of them.

IF a man has not faith in his eating of meat , then its sin for him to eat , for its not of faith.   And my liberty will not become a stumbling block to those who know not .

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 hour ago, Riccardo said:

 

Are you suggesting that Sabbath keepers must do animal sacrifices not drive a car etc. 

Did Jesus heal on the Sabbath, did he break Gods law or (man made regulations). 

If He broke Gods laws he is not our savior, but jus a sinner.

Just because one wants to hold to Gods ten commandments doesn't mean he is a legalist or has to adhered to old testament works & regulations .

I also am over the Sabbath issue as it has been flogged, not even non sabbath harmonize on why. Some DO say Sunday is their sabbath some do not.

Cheers brother.

  

We need to get to the bottom of this.   So I have one question .    WHY did JESUS tell his desciples pray ye that your flight be not in winter NOR on the Sabbath.

why would he say nor on the Sabbath.  IS that because it means they would all be gathered at temple.   I also notice something it often mentions

a Sabbath days journey.    I wonder how far that is.   just interested if any knows.

[other one]

14 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

The buffalo speaketh.   but actually no.   that would not be breaking Sabbath and JESUS made things very clear.

do not each one of you loose his donkey and beast to be watered on the Sabbath .  had that been a sin , I think he would have said so.

IF picking up your mat had been a sin on Sabbath , JESUS would not have broken the law to point to himself .  man was seeing things wrong.

The shew bread WAS for priests only.  but neither david nor the priests broke law when feeding david and those in need.  the law has to be rightly divided.

Their is a way to keep Sabbath holy.   I truly believe Sabbath is tied directly into KNOWING CHRIST.  I think that is our true rest.  For his burden is light and yoke easy.

However jews will keep Sabbath and we must never sway them otherwise.  In fact if among them we should honor it as do they.  we should avoid pork as do  they

this is to win the jews to Christ.  for neither eating meat nor not eating meat is the focus.   CHRIST , righteousness and holiness IS , JOY of the HOLY GHOST and joy of SALVATION.

Had the gentiles been ordered to hold jewish festivals , then the letter sent from the apostels would have said so.   However around any jew

around those who hold or esteem a day above another , we should live as do they to always do all to win all to Christ .  THIS does not include to SIN.  that is a lie from hell .

we don't sin as do the gentiles to win them.  We live righteously at all times by his power within.   but their will always be those who are weak in faith.

those we are to do as they do concerning meats, drinks days.  our liberty cannot be a stumbling block , for when we wound their conscious, we actually SIN against Christ .

we live and do all for the sake of the others.    I am fully persuaded about days meats and drinks.  but if any is not , we must live as do they in front of them.

IF a man has not faith in his eating of meat , then its sin for him to eat , for its not of faith.   And my liberty will not become a stumbling block to those who know not .

Jesus ended keeping the Sabbath with all those things you are speaking of....    All of those things were not legal in the days of Moses.

[frienduff thaylorde]

13 minutes ago, other one said:

Jesus ended keeping the Sabbath with all those things you are speaking of....    All of those things were not legal in the days of Moses.

Your close .    He did not omit anything though.  HE came to show us HOW to really LIVE and how to see the law.

an example , the woman in adultery.   IT had been written in the law that she should be stoned .   SO do notice JESUS DID NEVER ONCE tell them DO NOT STONE HER.

the law said too.   BUT. the law had also said ..............VENGEANCE IS MINE , I WILL REPAY .   SEE.     GOD alone is the ONLY RIGHTEOUS JUDGE OF THAT LAW

no man can be, for none are righteous and all are guilty by the law.  NO man can justify himself by a law he has broken , TOO LATE cant be done .

and no man has never sinned so all men stand guilty under the law .  jusifciatoin by the law means certain death .  for by the law the only thing we deserve IS DEATH

A FACT , a TRUE FACT.    JUSFIICATION we cannot obtain by our selves.  no man can all have already sinned .  TOO LATE . 

too late.    BUT by faith in CHRIST we are justified from the law,  something the flesh COULD NEVER DO , NEVER .  nope  , NEVER.

THAT IS WHY WE SHOULD BE REJOICING .    YEAH REJOICING .    yeah I say again REJOICING IN HIS SALVATION .   

However JESUS aint no minsitir of SIN either.  IF while we seek to be JUSTIFED by faith in Christ we ourselves are found sinners.   NO GOOD not going to work out either.

BY the SPIRIT we walk As HE DID , HE came to set us free from the power of sin .  It aint the flesh that convicts me when an evil thought pops in my mind

NOPE that is the SPIRIT at work warning me to CEASE THE THOUGHT .  but whom we obey HIS servants we are.

THIS Is why I am so grave too.   I am very joyful for HIS salvation , but I also know this flesh is contrary.  and it must be crucified by the power of the one true and holy spirit .

IF a man walks in darkness and says he knows GOD , he is a liar .  JOHN KNEW.  

I know we have erred since coming .  I KNOW that .   BUT if we continue living under the mindset that we have no power against the evil in our flesh

THAT THE SPIRIT will always give us power over the flesh,   then we doomed .   Jesus never came to NOT set us free from sin

and a servant of sin IS NOT FREE FROM SIN  he is still servant to sin.    Too many have sat under money hungry preachers.

and the desire  , love of money will kill the joy of his salvation and us too.     Ever notice why so many have hung heads when they aint got that money

or if something don't work out they way they wanted it, they get upset with God.  I SURE have .  YET i have very little money , and no fear of losing it all

yet i got JOY at all times neighbor , WHY , cause GOD had mercy on this wicked thing and i am no longer under a death sentence but have real hope and joy IN HIS SALVATOIN.

the heart cannotbe both places . it cant    .    HEAVENLY MINDED .   SINGLE EYE.   ALL ABOVE ON CHRIST .   amen.

[frienduff thaylorde]

So sing it peoples .  SING TO THE LORD and REJOICE and JOY in HIS salvation .   

Lets sum it up.

Number one Admit their is no one good , but GOD.   not even sweet old granny.  nope she wicked too . all mankind is.    Say this about a thousand times or till it sinks in.

number two.   No man can justify himself by the law.    For all have sinned , all are wicked , all we have earned, or ever will earn APART from CHRIST is hell fire.

repeat about five hundred times or till it sinks in.

Now look at both one and two.  then go look at all the pictures of your own family and all mankind and say it about fifty times again.

NOW.   say this many times too.  THIER is a way out .   it aint allah,   no that is satan,  it aint budda , no satan too,  no man, no pure evil .

THE ONLY WAY OUT .  and yes their is ONLY ONE WAY ,  only ONE .   so get this name engrained deep and tell interfaith to go back to the pits of hell where it came from.

JESUS ONLY SAVES and ONLY JESUS SAVES their is your two choices.   well ONE REALLY .

SO when men try and make us look like monsters cause we don't preach JESUS as a minstir of sin,  OR we wont allow any in any other religion or mindset to go unwarned

REJOICE and leap for joy , but never sell out or perish you will.   

I stand against the all inclusive gay transgender and interfaith lie from hell for world peace.   And may i die ten thousand of the worst painful deaths long fore i say otherwise.

SO , say it one more time.    HEY POPE and all others who gather for this dung pile world peace that is leading all to the coming man of sin.  WE WONT HEAR YA

repent and COME To CHRIST fore tis too late.    YEAH, HOW BOUT THAT get back in the pulpits again.    

[other one]

4 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Your close .    He did not omit anything though.  HE came to show us HOW to really LIVE and how to see the law.

an example , the woman in adultery.   IT had been written in the law that she should be stoned .   SO do notice JESUS DID NEVER ONCE tell them DO NOT STONE HER.

He showed them how to live alright.....   Love God and love your neighbor, repent and get baptized.....

As for the lady in adultery:::::

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written by Kevin Cornette (kevincornette@yahoo.com) Kevinator Cornbread Oct 9 2004, 03:08 AM Post #1
April 04 From: Houston Texas Area

Okay. First a little history. This event takes place in John 8, the day after the events that took place in Chapter 7:37 through verse 53. Let's look there first:

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet. John 7:37-40
When Jesus stands and cries in the Temple is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful and meaningful events in the life of Messiah. In John 7:2, we read that this was during the Feast of Sukkot (Tabernacles), one of the three Feasts of Ascension (when all Jewish men from 12 years old and upward were required to be in Jerusalem).
On the last day, the great day of the Feast, is Hosannah Rabbah, and a special ceremony took place as long as the Temple of God stood. The priest would be split into three divisions and perform certain functions. The first would stay in the Temple and prepare to shout the Hallel and glorify God (along with the Levitical Choir and musicians) when the other two groups got back from their assigned duties.
The second division of priests would go out to the Kidron valley on the north of the Temple to cut down huge (25-30 foot long) willow branches. The willow branch is a symbol of the resurrection, for when these willow branches were put into the ground, they would take root and grow into trees. These priests would bring the branches into great stands to wave them over the Altar of sacrifice to make the sound of a mighty rushing wind to commemorate the day that God lit the fire of the Altar in Solomon's Temple (2 Chronicles 7:1-4). They would enter the Temple through the Eastern Gate (where the resurrected Jesus will enter at His return) and wait til the appropriate time.
The last group accompanied the Kohen HaGaddol (High Priest) to the pool of Siloam, where he dipped a silver pitcher into the pool to draw out of the well "Living Waters". As he drew the water out, he would sing/chant chapter 12 of Isaiah:

And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me. Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted. Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this is known in all the earth. Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.
(can you see the Messianic prophecy here. The underlined part reads in Hebrew "Behold, God is Y'shua. I will put my confidence in and reverence him. YAH, YHVH is my strength, my rejoicing, and has become my Y'shua" -- Y'shua is Jesus name in Hebrew! )
After the water is drawn, the Kohen HaGaddol and his company would come up to the Temple through the Water Gate and wait outside the entrance. (as a quick aside, as soon as the companies of Kohen left, everyone would bow down and wait until the ceremony began)
What these three companies were waiting for is the sound of the flute. The ceremony began with the sound of a flute playing from the pinnacle of the Temple of God. This flute was called "The Pierced One" and had five holes in it (remember Jesus had five wounds: 2 hands, 2 feet and his side!). As soon as the pierced one cried out, the ceremony began. However, in this year, while everyone is bowing and waiting for the Pierced One to cry out, Jesus STOOD and cried instead (for He truly is the Pierced One - Zechariah 12:10, Psalm 22:16, John 19:34-37 & Revelation 1:7!)! HalleluYAH!
Jesus cries out and tells them "This ceremony we have celebrated together for 1500 years, it is pointing to this: I will cause the Ruach HaKodesh [Holy Spirit] to come and dwell in you, if you will put your confidence in me, just like the Scripture said that the Kohen HaGaddol just quoted!" Many believed on Him on this day. And Jesus spoke with such power and authority that the Levitical Officers (who operated as policemen in the Temple complex and were commissioned to arrest anyone who disturbed the ceremony) could not arrest Jesus but simply said "No man ever spoke like this Man!" (John 7:46).
All of this takes place on the last day of Sukkot, the 21st day of Tishre. The following day is a minor Feast of the LORD called "Simchat Torah", or "Rejoicing with the Torah". It was supposed to be a great day of celebration and rejoicing before the LORD because God had given His people the Living Torah (who is, indeed, Jesus). Instead of rejoicing that Jesus had come bringing salvation, deliverance and the forgiveness of sin, the accusers came to bring accusation. On this day, Jesus was once again in the Temple teaching (John 8:2) -- the common Jews rejoicing with the Living Word, and the leaders bringing the accusation.
(I am sorry that this is taking so long to set up, but this information is needed to rightly divide the Word here, and have understanding of what Jesus said and did).
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, they say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

Now just a little more history: Whenever someone was caught in adultery, both the man and the woman would be brought to the Nicanor gates and accused. If witnesses could be gathered to confirm that adultery had indeed been committed, then there was a certain ceremony that would be done in order to bring judgment. However, in this instance they only brought the woman. This was a violation of the Oral Law of God. Strike One.
Secondly, the priest was required to then stoop down and write the law that had been broken (na'aph, or 'adultery' would be written in Hebrew), along with the name of the accused, in the dust of the floor of the Temple (which Jesus did) [actually, the priest could write the law and the names anywhere, as long as the marks were not permanent - and the dust of the floor of the Temple was the most common place]. By doing this, Jesus showed these accusers that THEY were not keeping the law, but He would anyway. Strike Two.
So these men ignored the law, brought the woman only, and then continued with accusation. So Jesus stood up (after plainly demonstrating they were violating the law themselves) said "He who is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her" John 8:7). THEY did not want to cast the stone, they wanted Jesus to condemn her, so they continued accusing.
Now to get this last part, lemme throw in just a little more history. Every year on Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement), the Kohen HaGaddol would immerse up to 11 times in a Mikveh (a baptismal tank) in order to be ceremonially cleansed between each separate portion of the day's sacrifices. At the end of Yom Kippur, there was a celebration at the home of the Kohen HaGaddol, and there would be great rejoicing that God had received the sacrifice, and everyone’s sins had been rolled fore ward another year (as they were waiting on Messiah). To end the day, and announce to everyone the party was over (and it was time to go home), the Kohen HaGaddol would come out and quote Jeremiah 17:13 "'Oh YHVH, the Mikveh of Israel...' just as the mikveh cleansed me on this day, may the Holy One (Messiah), blessed be his name, cleanse all Israel when He comes".
(The KJV reads "Oh LORD the hope of Israel"... however, if you get your Strong's Concordance out, you can look up the word translated hope, and it is #4723 'mikveh' -- which is a baptismal tank).
So any religious Jewish man had heard this verse quoted by the High Priest every year since he was 12 years old. At 50, he would have heard it 39 times! (although Yom Kippur was NOT a Feast of ascension, many would come up for YOMA anyway, because of it's close relationship in time to Sukkot, when they had to be there anyway). The entire verse is as follows:
O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters. Jeremiah 17:13

The way it reads in Hebrew is:
"Oh YHVH, the Immerser of Israel, all those who leave your way shall be put to shame (publicly embarrassed), those who turn aside from my ways will have their names written in the dust and blotted out, for they have departed from YHVH, the fountain of Mayim Hayim (the waters of life).."
So Jesus gave them a chance -- they could have been just embarrassed and then repented before the LORD. but instead they rejected, and in turn had their names written in the dust. This passage in Jeremiah is a Messianic prophecy of what Messiah would do when He came - and in this passage in John, we see Jesus fulfill the prophecy.
In my opinion, one og the most interesting parts is verse 9:
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
They heard the voice of God in their conscience, the Spirit of God bringing to their remembrance all the times they heard the Kohen HaGaddol quote the verse -- but instead of receiving the conviction and repenting, they departed from Him (just as it was prophesied!). They left from the eldest to the youngest, the older having heard the verse quoted more often (imho). And Jesus did this on the day following His announcement that HE was the fountain of living waters (John 7:37-39). Strike Three and they were out!
(as one more aside, then Jesus returns to his teaching of the multitude in the Temple, by saying "I am the light of the world"... this was the very morning that the four great lamps of the court in the Temple (which were called "The light of the world" were being extinguished after being kept lit for the entire celebration of Sukkot).
That is my take on it, and I can't wait to see the video of it in heaven.  

 

 

[n2thelight]

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