CREATION THAT MADE OF WATER

[Alex2165]

ALL CREATION MADE OUT OF WATER.

 

DAY 1 – THE COSMOS.

 

 

Genesis 1.1-2

1.In the beginning when GOD created the heavens (physical universe) and the Earth.

2.The Earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from GOD (in some translation, in Hebrew and English, translated as: “the Spirit of GOD”) swept over the face of the waters (2Peter 3.5-6).

 

It is truly puzzled many people and scholars. What kind “the face of the deep” and “the face of the water” here Bible referring to? Most likely, in this case, the matrix or the substance of the cosmos here referred to as “the face of the deep.” Indeed, the cosmos is deep and it seems that it infinite and has no end.

 

“Swept over the face of the water.” This passage can be understood like this, that the Spirit of GOD swept over the cosmos “the waters” in order to create a certain creation and to form out of it a certain object. And this is was the DAY 1, means that the very first creation of GOD was the cosmos of our universe.

 

 

DAY 2 - THE SKY.

 

Genesis 1.6-7

6.And GOD said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”

7.So GOD made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so.

8.GOD called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.

 

These passages most likely referring to creation of the dome of the sky, as it mentioned in verse 8. But it is not a dome as we use to know it, like a dome of the building, but this is a dome in the form of a ball, just like a bubble. When we look at the sky, for us looking from the ground up, the sky indeed looks like a dome, but in reality it is truly a bubble surrounding the Earth.

 

 

DAY 3 – THE SEAS AND THE DRY LAND.

 

Genesis 1.9-10

9.And GOD said, "Let the waters under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.

10.GOD called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together He called Seas. And GOD saw that it was good. (2Peter 3.5-7) (Psalm of David 24.1-2).

 

These are perhaps the most difficult verses to explain, but by analyzing them closer it may lead us to a certain conclusion, that “the waters under the sky” meant a kind of substance, most likely the cosmic substance that was surrounded by the bubble of the sky, and it was, “gathered together into one place.” This may means that it has been pressurized and turned into the real water as we know it today. So, such event created a ball of real water inside of the bubble of the sky, and it called as Seas.

 

But here is a true difficulty in figuring it out, and a question arises: Where the dry land appeared from? Because so far was nothing said about dry land. But we know one undisputed fact that the core of our Earth consists of very hot liquid material, and sometimes it spilled out in form of lava during volcanic eruptions. When lava spills out, it very soon hardens and creates hard rock. Such process may explain the formation of the tectonic plates of the Earth on which the continents are lie down.

 

But where the hot core of the Earth came from? It may have been formed by the same water that was gathered under the bubble of the sky in one place. The cosmic material inside the bubble under the low pressure formed the seas, but the other part of this cosmic water that was gathered in the center of the bubble under very high pressure may have been turned into hot liquid core of our Earth, which in its turn, under very high pressure expanded, and the outer part of it raised up to the low pressure of the water, hardened and cools down, and formed the plates of the Earth under the water, on which our continents are lie upon.

 

But due to extremely high pressure of the hot liquid in the core of the Earth, the hot core of the Earth leaked through the plates, and formed hard dry land and the mountains on the hardened surface of the Earth, process of which still evident, and continues as it was in the past, and still very active even today.

 

 

DAY 5 – SEA CREATURES AND BIRDS.

 

Genesis 1.20-23

20.And GOD said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the Earth across the dome of the sky.”

 

21.So GOD created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves of every kind, with the waters swarm, and every winged bird of every kind. And GOD saw that it was good.

22.GOD blessed them saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the Earth.”

 

23.And was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.

 

The water that brings forth swarms of living creatures is well understood, which means that in the water were created all sorts of sea creatures, but where the birds came from? Are they come out of water, or the author of this narrative wrote something that is not a part of this particular process and may went ahead of its time?

 

Because creation of the birds is written right after creation of marine life (verses 21 and 22), and on the same Day 5, then we may certainly conclude that the origin of the birds actually came from the water of the sea, and not from the land animals as our current science teach us.

 

We always assumed the birds are land animals and derived and originated from specific group of land animals. But according to the next account, the land animals are created on the next DAY- 6, and absolutely nothing was said about creation of the birds on that DAY!

 

 

THE WATER OF LIFE.

 

But much more can be said about water beside just Bible account. The water really is a true source of all life on Earth. Every human being is born in a sack of its mother’s womb filled with water. And we know what it means when it said, “water broke down” which means that a pregnant woman ready to give birth, and indeed the water comes out with a new born.

 

Leviticus 14.9

9. Bath his body in the water. This was not simply to cleanse oneself. It symbolizes rebirth and re-creation - just as an infant is born out of water, just like a convert emerges out of water to a new life and a new identity, just as the world was created out of water (Genesis 1.2). The experience of illness and recovery has made the leper a new person - that is someone who now looks at life differently (Seifer Ha-Hinnukh).

Etz Hayim. Torah and Commentary.

(Washing body with water: (Exodus 29.4, 30.18-21, 40.12) (Leviticus 8.6, 14.8-9, 15.5-8.10-11.13.18.21-22.27).

 

And according to scientific calculations, we are containing 80% of water and the rest the hard material of bones, similar to the Earth which is also containing about the same amount of water. And this also can be said almost about other creature of Earth.

 

All creatures, on the land and in the sea that are mammals, give birth just like humans do, from the mother’s sack full of water. Those who are not mammals, even insects, all laying eggs, and the eggs contain liquid in which the life continue to form until it ready to break out free from the egg and to go on its own way.

 

So, in this sense, our entire physical world, according to the passages above, truly, as it is written about it, had been made from the cosmic “water,” and exists in the “water,” and gives life from the “water.” And according to this conclusion, the very first verses of the Bible make complete and full sense.

 

And look at the similarities of the space of cosmos and the water of the Earth. In both of these substances a person become weightless and glides and floats in these materials almost effortlessly.

If we remove the electromagnetic field of the core of the Earth, we will in the same fashion float and glide through the air just like in the space of cosmos or under the water, and become completely weightless. And this shows that the source and basis of all these three substances, cosmos, air, and water, are quite identical in their molecular structure.

 

And this is why the astronauts always trained in a big pool of water, to imitate and to get closer to environment of the weightlessness of the space, which Moses called all of it as “water.”

 

Psalm 24.1-2

1.The Earth is the Lord's and all it contains, the world and those who dwell in it.

2.He has founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the rivers.

 

[OneLight]

Lets take this one at a time.

2 hours ago, Alex2165 said:

Genesis 1.1-2

1.In the beginning when GOD created the heavens (physical universe) and the Earth.

2.The Earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from GOD (in some translation, in Hebrew and English, translated as: “the Spirit of GOD”) swept over the face of the waters (2Peter 3.5-6).

It is truly puzzled many people and scholars. What kind “the face of the deep” and “the face of the water” here Bible referring to? Most likely, in this case, the matrix or the substance of the cosmos here referred to as “the face of the deep.” Indeed, the cosmos is deep and it seems that it infinite and has no end.

“Swept over the face of the water.” This passage can be understood like this, that the Spirit of GOD swept over the cosmos “the waters” in order to create a certain creation and to form out of it a certain object. And this is was the DAY 1, means that the very first creation of GOD was the cosmos of our universe.

Scripture tells us what God is talking about ... The Earth.  There is no need to wander off into the cosmos when God is speaking of one planet, Earth. 

A simple look at the phrase "the deep", which is the Hebrew word tĕhowm H8415, we read:

1. deep, depths, deep places, abyss, the deep, sea

   1. deep (of subterranean waters)

   2. deep, sea, abysses (of sea)

   3. primeval ocean, deep

   4. deep, depth (of river)

   5. abyss, the grave

You cannot take scripture, apply your personal understanding and not be confused.  Take scripture as it is written. 

Genesis 1:1-5

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.  And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.  God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

[OneLight]

You really should read other bibles besides the New Revised Standard Version.  That version will lead to more confusion.  They this: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=NKJV

2 hours ago, Alex2165 said:

Genesis 1.6-7

6.And GOD said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”

7.So GOD made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so.

8.GOD called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.

 

These passages most likely referring to creation of the dome of the sky, as it mentioned in verse 8. But it is not a dome as we use to know it, like a dome of the building, but this is a dome in the form of a ball, just like a bubble. When we look at the sky, for us looking from the ground up, the sky indeed looks like a dome, but in reality it is truly a bubble surrounding the Earth.

Here is the NKJV of Genesis 1:6-8

Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”  Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.  And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

The word "firmament" means atmosphere, not dome.  It is the sky above that separates the water from the earth from the water in the clouds.

[OneLight]

Next, day three.  Due to your 'dome' theory, I can see how you can think this is difficult to understand.  The waters under the sky are the oceans, seas, rivers and lakes. 

3 hours ago, Alex2165 said:

DAY 3 – THE SEAS AND THE DRY LAND.

 

Genesis 1.9-10

9.And GOD said, "Let the waters under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.

10.GOD called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together He called Seas. And GOD saw that it was good. (2Peter 3.5-7) (Psalm of David 24.1-2).

 

These are perhaps the most difficult verses to explain, but by analyzing them closer it may lead us to a certain conclusion, that “the waters under the sky” meant a kind of substance, most likely the cosmic substance that was surrounded by the bubble of the sky, and it was, “gathered together into one place.” This may means that it has been pressurized and turned into the real water as we know it today. So, such event created a ball of real water inside of the bubble of the sky, and it called as Seas.

 

But here is a true difficulty in figuring it out, and a question arises: Where the dry land appeared from? Because so far was nothing said about dry land. But we know one undisputed fact that the core of our Earth consists of very hot liquid material, and sometimes it spilled out in form of lava during volcanic eruptions. When lava spills out, it very soon hardens and creates hard rock. Such process may explain the formation of the tectonic plates of the Earth on which the continents are lie down.

 

But where the hot core of the Earth came from? It may have been formed by the same water that was gathered under the bubble of the sky in one place. The cosmic material inside the bubble under the low pressure formed the seas, but the other part of this cosmic water that was gathered in the center of the bubble under very high pressure may have been turned into hot liquid core of our Earth, which in its turn, under very high pressure expanded, and the outer part of it raised up to the low pressure of the water, hardened and cools down, and formed the plates of the Earth under the water, on which our continents are lie upon.

 

But due to extremely high pressure of the hot liquid in the core of the Earth, the hot core of the Earth leaked through the plates, and formed hard dry land and the mountains on the hardened surface of the Earth, process of which still evident, and continues as it was in the past, and still very active even today.

I see you have given this a lot of thought.  Congratulations for your hard work.  Have you also considered the subterranean oceans?  How God separated the dry land from the water could very well explain these subterranean oceans. 

As for the Earths core ... is it not water.  Nobody knows for sure what the core is made of, but I would lean far more to it being molten alloy, heated up by pressure and gravity.  I agree that through volcanic actions, more of the core is poured out, making more rocky surface, be it above or under water.

Genesis 1:9-13

Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so.  And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so.  And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.  So the evening and the morning were the third day.

[OneLight]

Not sure why you left out day 4, but here it is.

Genesis 1:14-19

Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so.  Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.  God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.  So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

This is important for without the sun, nothing would grow on it's own.

[OneLight]

You really need to stick to scripture on this one and not assume that God cannot create birds as they are, the same with the other animals.  Scripture does not say they came from the sea, and you would do well not to conclude they did.  God, who created all that is, spoke birds into existence, just like He did everything else.

3 hours ago, Alex2165 said:

Genesis 1.20-23

20.And GOD said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the Earth across the dome of the sky.”

 

21.So GOD created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves of every kind, with the waters swarm, and every winged bird of every kind. And GOD saw that it was good.

22.GOD blessed them saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the Earth.”

 

23.And was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.

 

The water that brings forth swarms of living creatures is well understood, which means that in the water were created all sorts of sea creatures, but where the birds came from? Are they come out of water, or the author of this narrative wrote something that is not a part of this particular process and may went ahead of its time?

 

Because creation of the birds is written right after creation of marine life (verses 21 and 22), and on the same Day 5, then we may certainly conclude that the origin of the birds actually came from the water of the sea, and not from the land animals as our current science teach us.

 

We always assumed the birds are land animals and derived and originated from specific group of land animals. But according to the next account, the land animals are created on the next DAY- 6, and absolutely nothing was said about creation of the birds on that DAY!

You are taking too much leeway with your conclusions.  

If birds were created on day 5, why would you expect them to be created on day 6 also?  You seem to of missed the order of creating living beings.  First, the sea, second the sky, third the earth.  God did not make a mistake, nor did the writer mess up.

[OneLight]

The last part of your post I will let be as it is just an assumption on your part.  I'll let the real scientist deal with it.

By the way, Welcome to Worthy.

[GreyDestiny]

This is a matter of misunderstanding. Many times, when the bible talks about "water" or "waters," it is talking about voices. In this instance, God's voice. He says, "let birds multiply on Earth," and so it happens.

"For I will pour out water on the thirsty land and streams on the dry ground. I will pour out my spirit on your offspring and my blessing on your descendants." Isaiah 44:3